Cherine, 1903 desert bred stallion to France

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on November 25th, 2017 in France

A photo of the desert-bred stallion Cherine from the magazine Le Sport Universel Illustre. Cherine, born in 1903, was one of the best looking stallions to be imported by the French to their government stud of Pompadour, and then on to their Algerian stud in Tiaret in 1909.

13 Responses to “Cherine, 1903 desert bred stallion to France”

  1. I am interested in knowing what information you have behind this fine fellow.

  2. Jeanne Craver, I would be interested too. It appears to me, he might fit right in with the Davenport Arabians.

  3. Fine Fellow is right. He reminds me of Manadarin Cf. Overall level body balance without the overly long neck we sometimes see today. Very nicely conformed
    best Bruce Peek

  4. I have no further information than his importation straight from the desert. Amelie is working with me to compile a list of Arabian imports to France, and she might have more.

  5. I have not yet expanded to the 20th century imports, so I don’t have much to add for Cherine right now. I have to keep some kind of logic chronological order otherwise it becomes a huge mess very fast lol ^^ (i have approx 340 entries right now and all before 1860). Although I can add that : 1) I am not sure about the actual date of export to Algeria (Tiaret) seems like it was much later than 1909 (unless there was another original import also named Cherine, the beautiful boy was still standing in the Pompadour stations in the late 1910’s). He was likely sent there only in 1920 as an old boy and hence bred for a couple more years at Tiaret producing Guenina (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=GUENINA&g=5&cellpadding=0&small_font=1&l=) and 2) considering our habit to call original imports regarding to whom we bought the horse from or where from and also considering Egypt (especially the Cairo racetrack) was one of our favorite
    “shopping” places, this horse might very well be connected to Ismael Cherine Bey, governor of Cairo (just a personal guess 😉

  6. It’s a good guess. It works for the stallion Ibish. The mother of Gulsun Sherif is Hedayat Cherine/Chirine. Did the Cherine’s have horses at the race tracks though.

  7. Cherine reminds me of *Hamrah. Mandarin CF also looked a lot like *Hamrah.

    From Britta Fahlgren’s book, The Arabian Horse Families of Poland:

    “Cherine OA, by a Hamdani El-Samri out of a Maanaki Sabili, was… a chestnut, foaled in Syria in 1903 and in 1914 imported to the Etablissement Hippiques d’Algerie.

    So I wouldn’t be surprised if Cherine was sired by the same Hamdani Simri stallion that sired *Hamrah.

  8. Yes, he went to France in 1909 first in the Limousin then in Pompadour and to Tiaret Algeria in 1914. His daughter Hasifa out of Massetora was one of the best mares in Tiaret according to Mauvy.

  9. RJ, I would not be surprised, either! He looks so “familiar” to me. Like Tripoli, actually, who was nothing if not a *Hamrah / *Urfah. It would be wonderful to know if anything more existed in information about his acquisition.

  10. Amelie, he was not part of the 1909 Quinchez importation from the Alexandria racetrack which included Dahman, Meenak, Aslani, Farid, Hamdani-Sameri, Latif and Maarouf. So which importation was he from?

  11. So…this was another “two times” expedition, you know how we usually did this, so as usual first shipment was done headed by Quinchez (head director of the French Studs) had brought back 20 horses (these are the stallions on the Quinchez report), second shipment was headed by lieutenant-colonel du Jonchay (head director of the Algerian Studs) brought back 25 five more horses. I suppose Cherine was part of the second shipment, what do you think?
    Obviously there was some back and forth exchanges between both shipments. Since they had to be review by the Studbook commissions they all probably landed in France and this is were “trades” (and likely some good arguments ^^) were made. So Cherine was planned for Algeria, leading to some confusions about his actual date of export over there. Probably thought to be too good a horse to let him go 😉 Anyway, he was still at le Dorat stallion station in 1919 (see here: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6548135j/f10.image.r=cherine). Note that Le Dorat was also holding the famous Dressage Riding School of the Limousin and the horses bred there were regarded as the most perfect and prettiest foals of this country, likely with the contribution of the beautiful Arabian stud we are now discussing.

  12. sorry for poor spelling and grammar in my post above (it is time to get some rest i guess)

  13. Thank you. That’s super useful. Where is the Quinchez report?

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