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9 Responses to “Do we know who this mare is?”

1. Jeanne Craver Said:
   October 24th, 2011 5:48 pm

   We aren’t sure. It does not really look the photo we have think is *Haffia. There are no apparent markings on the legs. There is no broad blaze, but stars, narrow strips and snips can’t be seen. There are several mares it could be. *Haffia is a possibility, certainly.

2. Ambar Said:
   October 24th, 2011 5:56 pm

   The development of the hindquarter makes me think this is a young mare, possibly on her first pregnancy, in which case it could be a mare bred at Hingham, not just one of the imports.

3. Edouard Aldahdah Said:
   October 24th, 2011 8:48 pm

   Could that be Fahreddin (Abu Zeyd x Abeyah), born 1913? Do markings and descriptions fit?

4. R.J. Cadranell Said:
   October 25th, 2011 1:38 am

   I don’t think there is any evidence that Fahreddin was ever at Hingham, is there?

5. Michael Bowling Said:
   October 25th, 2011 10:51 am

   No, Fahreddin pretty clearly stayed in New Jersey until she went to W.R. Brown. Also, she had white markings that would have shown here.

   I had wondered if this might be *Pride (it resembles both *Galfia and Sheba to my eye) but on further thought it struck me, there are only, what, three or four? registered horses from Bradley’s breeding before he was involved in Davenport Desert Arabian Stud. It stands to reason he bred more horses than that between 1893 and 1906, and he also owned some of the Hamidie imports that were never registered. There’s evidence in the horse papers of the time that he sold unregistered Arabians. Since we don’t know when these unidentified pictures were taken, we can’t really be sure they’re actually horses that made their way into the stud book, and having no visible markings on this one increases the difficulty.

6. Bruce Peek Said:
   October 25th, 2011 11:50 am

   Well Carol Mulder identifies her as Haffia in her Imported Foundation stock book. Mention has been made of her hindend, which is problematical since her dam was Abeya, described as having the best back tendons of anything in horse flesh by Davenport, and her sire was great Hamdabni who also sired Hamra and Euphrates who both had fabulously stroing hindquarters. Maybe the explanation is that the photo was taken when she was youngish- less than 5 years old and hence not fully developed yet..
   Best wishes
   Bruce Peek

7. Edouard Aldahdah Said:
   October 25th, 2011 2:23 pm

   She does not look like the other photo we have of *Haffia, though.

8. Jeanne Craver Said:
   October 26th, 2011 10:30 pm

   I can see the look of *Galfia there. There is just a “feel” that is closer to that line than to *Abeyah, although I realize that is pretty flimsy evidence!

9. Edouard Aldahdah Said:
   October 26th, 2011 11:08 pm

   I agree, It is the fineness of the silhouette.

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