Comments on: from Combined Source to Straight Arabians http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/ Tue, 22 May 2012 16:52:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-25691 Edouard Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:32:09 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-25691 Very nice! I like Pure Blend! Very nice! I like Pure Blend!

]]> By: Chris Vancoillie http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-25678 Chris Vancoillie Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:31:24 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-25678 Why not change "Combined Source" to "Pure Blend"? Why not change “Combined Source” to “Pure Blend”?

]]> By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-23116 Edouard Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:42:53 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-23116 Ralph, of course, IMO the onus is breeders of non SE asil arabians is to develop their breeding and create a market for it, as opposed to dropping out and joining the crowd of SE rank and file breeders. Ralph, of course, IMO the onus is breeders of non SE asil arabians is to develop their breeding and create a market for it, as opposed to dropping out and joining the crowd of SE rank and file breeders.

]]> By: Judi Parks http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-23108 Judi Parks Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:33:43 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-23108 Straight Egyptian, Pure Polish, Russian....they were and still are marketing only terms. There is no such thing as a Straight Egyptian horse. This is a label given to a group of horses by a group of people in order to perpetuate what this group of people like and are breeding. I agree with you Edouard... it is a concept that artificially isolates, excludes and singles out a group of Asil Arabians from the wider population of Asil Arabians. What is going on today is a crying shame. Now that this group has achieved success beyond imagination and there are numerous SE horses and SE breeders you are now faced with certain factions within this group professing that certain SE horses are inferior to what they have....again to increase the value of what they are breeding and to what they have to sell. Ralph this domination of one group of people with one set of bloodlines over others has effectively prevented the growth of other viable breeding groups within the SE Asil Arabian, not to mention the other Asils. This non acceptance of other Asil groups has driven the SE into an inbred corner. The challenge is to overcome the strong push for exclusion of certain bloodlines that is currently going on in this industry as without a change the SE breeders are going to drop out one by one by one. Sorry....this exclusion marketing brings out the tiger in me...:) Straight Egyptian, Pure Polish, Russian….they were and still are marketing only terms. There is no such thing as a Straight Egyptian horse. This is a label given to a group of horses by a group of people in order to perpetuate what this group of people like and are breeding. I agree with you Edouard… it is a concept that artificially isolates, excludes and singles out a group of Asil Arabians from the wider population of Asil Arabians. What is going on today is a crying shame. Now that this group has achieved success beyond imagination and there are numerous SE horses and SE breeders you are now faced with certain factions within this group professing that certain SE horses are inferior to what they have….again to increase the value of what they are breeding and to what they have to sell.
Ralph this domination of one group of people with one set of bloodlines over others has effectively prevented the growth of other viable breeding groups within the SE Asil Arabian, not to mention the other Asils. This non acceptance of other Asil groups has driven the SE into an inbred corner. The challenge is to overcome the strong push for exclusion of certain bloodlines that is currently going on in this industry as without a change the SE breeders are going to drop out one by one by one.
Sorry….this exclusion marketing brings out the tiger in me…:)

]]> By: Ralph Suarez http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-23078 Ralph Suarez Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:39:06 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-23078 I agree with you Edouard. One should not dominate to the point of exclusion for another. But how do you maintain viable breeding groups, without the part becoming more important than the whole??? I think this is where the challenge lies. I agree with you Edouard. One should not dominate to the point of exclusion for another. But how do you maintain viable breeding groups, without the part becoming more important than the whole??? I think this is where the challenge lies.

]]> By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-23015 Edouard Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:31:27 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-23015 Ralph, I don't have a problem with the horses, I love the SE horses. I have a problem with every concept (including the SE), which artificially isolates, excludes, and singles out a group of asil Arabians from the wider population of asils. Ralph, I don’t have a problem with the horses, I love the SE horses. I have a problem with every concept (including the SE), which artificially isolates, excludes, and singles out a group of asil Arabians from the wider population of asils.

]]> By: Ralph Suarez http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-23013 Ralph Suarez Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:03:26 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-23013 Hi Edouard and I understand what you are saying and I think I agree with most everything that you say, regarding Combined Source horses. I think it is very similar to how I feel about Babson Halimas. If there are people already producing this cross, maybe the wisest thing to do is to try and do something else, something a little different, something that either doesn't exists or exists too few in numbers. For example, if we have an established and healthy supply of Egyptian Horses, does it make sense to continue breeding these horses instead of using the very best Egyptian bloodlines to blend with other superior Asil bloodlines, so that we can breed Asil Super Horses? That is horses who are superb than their straight counterparts?? I think this is what you are trying to say and not calling for the demise of Straight Egyptian Arabian horses, as there are those of us who are MADLY IN LOVE with the Egyptian Arabian Horse and would find it difficult to not recognize "the RAS, the EAO, the Prince Mohamed Aly Tewfik, the Ali Pasha Sherif, the Al Badeia, the Prince Kemal el Dine, the Dr. Marsafi, the Dr. Zaghloul, the Ameen Zaher, the Dr. Soliman, the Hamdan Stud of Mr. Hamza, the Inshass stud of King Farouk" found in our horses. We have a rich Egyptian history in our horses which we are so proud of, like the blood found in our beautiful red-headed queen, whose name means the beauty that is unfolding in the universe...Moniet el Nefous. When I was in my early teens, with money that I had saved from cutting lawns, I was able to purchase Judi Forbis" Classic Arabian Horse. It was this moment that became the defining moment in my life, with regard to Arabian Horses. I found the horse that I believed only lived in my imagination! Prior to purchasing this book, I was subscribed to Arabian Horse World and through the pages of the magazine, I was acquainted with many beautiful Arabian Horses like *Aramus (whose picture I had cut out and carried in my pocket, so I would never forget what an Arabian Horse is supposed to look like) but it was the Egyptian Arabian horse, where I found most consistently reproduced the horse that exists in my mind as the ideal Arabian Horse. I love Egyptian Arabian Horses and I love the country which made this horse possible and gifted the world with his beauty. Ralph Hi Edouard and I understand what you are saying and I think I agree with most everything that you say, regarding Combined Source horses. I think it is very similar to how I feel about Babson Halimas. If there are people already producing this cross, maybe the wisest thing to do is to try and do something else, something a little different, something that either doesn’t exists or exists too few in numbers. For example, if we have an established and healthy supply of Egyptian Horses, does it make sense to continue breeding these horses instead of using the very best Egyptian bloodlines to blend with other superior Asil bloodlines, so that we can breed Asil Super Horses? That is horses who are superb than their straight counterparts?? I think this is what you are trying to say and not calling for the demise of Straight Egyptian Arabian horses, as there are those of us who are MADLY IN LOVE with the Egyptian Arabian Horse and would find it difficult to not recognize “the RAS, the EAO, the Prince Mohamed Aly Tewfik, the Ali Pasha Sherif, the Al Badeia, the Prince Kemal el Dine, the Dr. Marsafi, the Dr. Zaghloul, the Ameen Zaher, the Dr. Soliman, the Hamdan Stud of Mr. Hamza, the Inshass stud of King Farouk” found in our horses. We have a rich Egyptian history in our horses which we are so proud of, like the blood found in our beautiful red-headed queen, whose name means the beauty that is unfolding in the universe…Moniet el Nefous. When I was in my early teens, with money that I had saved from cutting lawns, I was able to purchase Judi Forbis” Classic Arabian Horse. It was this moment that became the defining moment in my life, with regard to Arabian Horses. I found the horse that I believed only lived in my imagination! Prior to purchasing this book, I was subscribed to Arabian Horse World and through the pages of the magazine, I was acquainted with many beautiful Arabian Horses like *Aramus (whose picture I had cut out and carried in my pocket, so I would never forget what an Arabian Horse is supposed to look like) but it was the Egyptian Arabian horse, where I found most consistently reproduced the horse that exists in my mind as the ideal Arabian Horse.
I love Egyptian Arabian Horses and I love the country which made this horse possible and gifted the world with his beauty.
Ralph

]]> By: Jeanne Craver http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22983 Jeanne Craver Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:39:47 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22983 I am posting this for Jackson Hensley, who was unable to post himself today. "I tried to respond, unable! Combined Sources is a great name! just add Combined Sources-AK- strain name here -Breeding *The strains become the key-to all recordings - not the breeder country - AK has the records and any needed information. Your mare's foal will be then Combined Sources-AK-Hafiat strain-Breeding "Ak" could then simply show origin- like Syria-plus-Bedouin Breeding Unit.... I think we did this in the very first index-Carol [Lyons] and I I know you have with others extended this on! with others help... we all added to the present problem by adding countries, separating All AK breeding's go to Combined Sources! Bar none. Just some have more formal information surrounding the horse named. The combine breeding of sources is getting a lot of play at the moment. Especially since all AK horses are just that! (A) The mistake was compounded with years of letting countries become the strain. (B) The advancement of selling opportunities, promotion (C) Played right in to the hand of American Farms promoting sales (D) Like selling to Arab nations horses tracing back to there own original stock I personally believe: the words Combined Sources is Correct! Just add on... .as suggested. Combined Sources-AK-strain name-bedouin source-Breeding *leave all countries out after departure from the Bedouin. Then AK becomes what was needed in the first place, a record to the source." Jackson Hensley, Taos, New Mexico I am posting this for Jackson Hensley, who was unable to post himself today.

“I tried to respond, unable!

Combined Sources is a great name! just add Combined Sources-AK- strain name here -Breeding

*The strains become the key-to all recordings – not the breeder country – AK has the records and any needed information.

Your mare’s foal will be then Combined Sources-AK-Hafiat strain-Breeding

“Ak” could then simply show origin- like Syria-plus-Bedouin Breeding Unit…. I think we did this in the very first index-Carol [Lyons] and I

I know you have with others extended this on! with others help… we all added to the present problem by adding countries, separating

All AK breeding’s go to Combined Sources! Bar none. Just some have more formal information surrounding the horse named.

The combine breeding of sources is getting a lot of play at the moment. Especially since all AK horses are just that!

(A) The mistake was compounded with years of letting countries become the strain.
(B) The advancement of selling opportunities, promotion
(C) Played right in to the hand of American Farms promoting sales
(D) Like selling to Arab nations horses tracing back to there own original stock

I personally believe: the words Combined Sources is Correct! Just add on… .as suggested.

Combined Sources-AK-strain name-bedouin source-Breeding

*leave all countries out after departure from the Bedouin. Then AK becomes what was needed in the first place, a record to the source.”

Jackson Hensley, Taos, New Mexico

]]> By: Elena Latici http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22931 Elena Latici Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:33:24 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22931 Patrick--I'm so glad you made such a strong statement about marketing. I wrote an earlier comment about just that on the thread about " Why should we breed these horses if no one wants them?".....and then I erased it. I lost my nerve for fear of sounding cynical. The truth is that desire on a large scale for anything you can think of is a desire which has been created by Madison Avenue (or whatever its equivalent is in the rest of the world.) Anyone who has watched even 2 episodes of Mad Men knows this. I believe strongly in education--in talking and writing, but in order to really send a message, going to the dark side (marketing) :) is also a must. And BTW, your statement: 95% of the European breeders (including breeders of straight Egyptians) have no idea that there many pure bred are not at all. Good Lord, did you ever hit the nail on its flat, stubborn head. It's a major problem over here. Patrick–I’m so glad you made such a strong statement about marketing. I wrote an earlier comment about just that on the thread about ” Why should we breed these horses if no one wants them?”…..and then I erased it. I lost my nerve for fear of sounding cynical.

The truth is that desire on a large scale for anything you can think of is a desire which has been created by Madison Avenue (or whatever its equivalent is in the rest of the world.) Anyone who has watched even 2 episodes of Mad Men knows this.

I believe strongly in education–in talking and writing, but in order to really send a message, going to the dark side (marketing) :) is also a must.

And BTW, your statement: 95% of the European breeders (including breeders of straight Egyptians) have no idea that there many pure bred are not at all.

Good Lord, did you ever hit the nail on its flat, stubborn head. It’s a major problem over here.

]]> By: patrick http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22922 patrick Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:19:21 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22922 Marketing or educating is indeed the issue, the straight Egyptian has been marketed. What has Asil Club done in Europe when they should have made breeders aware? They have boycotted the 2nd largest group of available asils (the Tunesians) because recognising a couple of thousand asils would put their own handful of asils in the shadow. What are they doing today? Basically nothing, just an old book publisher promoting equally old books alongside and throwing a meager show every 2 years or so. 95% of the European breeders (including breeders of straight Egyptians) have no idea that there many pure bred are not at all. Popular and highly used stallions in Belgium are for instance Antar Elamal (www.allbreedpedigree.com/antar+elamal+wn) and JK Catalist (www.allbreedpedigree.com/jk+catalyst). Not alone are they both show champions and champion sires - the first is in fact the grandsire of the highly promoted Scottsdale & World res. champion Maharaja HDM and the second a son of the famous World & Qatar champion mare Victoria II. On top of that they are really gorgeous Arabians (looking as good in the flesh as on picture). Take a wild guess how many breeders in Belgium that sent their mares to these (absolutely gorgeous) Arabian stallions are aware that the granddams of these stallions are in fact high percentage and proven Shagya Arabians? They are prettier thany many asil Arabians but nevertheless breeders should be aware. Same as the French racing Arabians, people breed them for racing purpose but at least most of them know that their breeding is rather doubtful and that many have a different temperament than the Arabian. You can call it marketing or informing breeders, at least the straight Egyptian has grown thanks to marketing in one of the largest groups of asils world-wide Marketing or educating is indeed the issue, the straight Egyptian has been marketed. What has Asil Club done in Europe when they should have made breeders aware? They have boycotted the 2nd largest group of available asils (the Tunesians) because recognising a couple of thousand asils would put their own handful of asils in the shadow. What are they doing today? Basically nothing, just an old book publisher promoting equally old books alongside and throwing a meager show every 2 years or so.

95% of the European breeders (including breeders of straight Egyptians) have no idea that there many pure bred are not at all.

Popular and highly used stallions in Belgium are for instance Antar Elamal (www.allbreedpedigree.com/antar+elamal+wn) and JK Catalist (www.allbreedpedigree.com/jk+catalyst). Not alone are they both show champions and champion sires – the first is in fact the grandsire of the highly promoted Scottsdale & World res. champion Maharaja HDM and the second a son of the famous World & Qatar champion mare Victoria II. On top of that they are really gorgeous Arabians (looking as good in the flesh as on picture).

Take a wild guess how many breeders in Belgium that sent their mares to these (absolutely gorgeous) Arabian stallions are aware that the granddams of these stallions are in fact high percentage and proven Shagya Arabians?

They are prettier thany many asil Arabians but nevertheless breeders should be aware. Same as the French racing Arabians, people breed them for racing purpose but at least most of them know that their breeding is rather doubtful and that many have a different temperament than the Arabian.

You can call it marketing or informing breeders, at least the straight Egyptian has grown thanks to marketing in one of the largest groups of asils world-wide

]]> By: Jeanne Craver http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22920 Jeanne Craver Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:17:20 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22920 I think Elena has something there. Rather than fumble around with English, let's see what sounds reasonable in Arabic! I think Elena has something there. Rather than fumble around with English, let’s see what sounds reasonable in Arabic!

]]> By: Marge Smith http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22915 Marge Smith Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:42:29 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22915 As a breeder/owner of some combined source horses the term means to me that I can cross the best horses of several groups and still have an AK horse with outstanding quality. The best of both groups in one horse. marge As a breeder/owner of some combined source horses the term means to me that I can cross the best horses of several groups and still have an AK horse with outstanding quality. The best of both groups in one horse.
marge

]]> By: Elena Latici http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22914 Elena Latici Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:04:13 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22914 that's supposed to read "you" not "your". fumble fingers. that’s supposed to read “you” not “your”. fumble fingers.

]]> By: Elena Latici http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22913 Elena Latici Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:02:55 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22913 Edouard, how would your translate combined source into Arabic? Edouard, how would your translate combined source into Arabic?

]]> By: Haroon http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22912 Haroon Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:01:13 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22912 Yea I'm thinking on these lines too .I m going there soon to get my studbook an apply for an arab I wana send u a pic of a colt who's highly estemed by the Mona people here .how can I post a pic on ur blog sorry I'm a goof about these technical things Yea I’m thinking on these lines too .I m going there soon to get my studbook an apply for an arab I wana send u a pic of a colt who’s highly estemed by the Mona people here .how can I post a pic on ur blog sorry I’m a goof about these technical things

]]> By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22911 Edouard Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:44:22 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22911 Haroon, I will watch it indeed. When you get a chance, it would be helpful to check whether the horses gifted by the Saudi Royal family were bred to each other in close group or whether they were crossed with other Arabians.. Haroon, I will watch it indeed. When you get a chance, it would be helpful to check whether the horses gifted by the Saudi Royal family were bred to each other in close group or whether they were crossed with other Arabians..

]]> By: Elena Latici http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22905 Elena Latici Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:21:31 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22905 Was thinking of Asil2 as in Asil squared. When you cross and asil with an asil you get an asil2. Was thinking of Asil2 as in Asil squared. When you cross and asil with an asil you get an asil2.

]]> By: Haroon http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22901 Haroon Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:56:57 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22901 Eduard il get that stud book in few days .and in seventies Saudi king gave arab mares n stallions to out president they are kept at remont depot Mona it's a goverment owned farm where arab horses army mules and other breeds of horses .u can watch a glimpse of Pakistani Arabs in the documentry ribat-ul-khail on youvtube.currently there are no arab horse shows in Pakistan people are mostly interested in thoroughbreeds .u know whenever I c those cherished Arabs of Mona my heart beats fast .u must watch the lil documentry I told u .regards. Haroon Eduard il get that stud book in few days .and in seventies Saudi king gave arab mares n stallions to out president they are kept at remont depot Mona it’s a goverment owned farm where arab horses army mules and other breeds of horses .u can watch a glimpse of Pakistani Arabs in the documentry ribat-ul-khail on youvtube.currently there are no arab horse shows in Pakistan people are mostly interested in thoroughbreeds .u know whenever I c those cherished Arabs of Mona my heart beats fast .u must watch the lil documentry I told u .regards. Haroon

]]> By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22895 Edouard Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:35:35 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22895 tha's nice I like it.. tha’s nice I like it..

]]> By: Tim Graves http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22894 Tim Graves Mon, 12 Apr 2010 00:21:11 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22894 What about Pure to the Source Arabians? What about Pure to the Source Arabians?

]]> By: Elena Latici http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22886 Elena Latici Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:16:13 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22886 If the popularity of Straight Egyptians is owed to marketing, then maybe we should enlist some marketing experts to help. If the popularity of Straight Egyptians is owed to marketing, then maybe we should enlist some marketing experts to help.

]]> By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22883 Edouard Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:13:54 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22883 Jeanne, point well taken. I did not mean to imply that Combined Source was an official Al Khamsa term Jeanne, point well taken. I did not mean to imply that Combined Source was an official Al Khamsa term

]]> By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22882 Edouard Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:13:00 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22882 Hi Haroon, no I don't but I am very curious about the horses of Pakistan. Whether those of the Remounts from the time of the British or those presented by Arab rulers. It is a place I want to know more about. Do you have the Pakistani studbook? Hi Haroon, no I don’t but I am very curious about the horses of Pakistan. Whether those of the Remounts from the time of the British or those presented by Arab rulers. It is a place I want to know more about. Do you have the Pakistani studbook?

]]> By: Jeanne Craver http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22877 Jeanne Craver Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:44:07 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22877 I feel I should say that "Combined Source" is not an official Al Khamsa term. Al Khamsa has never defined modern breeding groups one way or the other. Al Khamsa supporters have tried for over thirty years to come up with a term for horses that have multiple ancestral elements and don't belong to some breeding group defined by some other organization. In Al Khamsa terms, a modern "Straight Egyptian" is likely to have four ancestral elements: Egypt I (before the RAS), Egypt II (after the RAS), Blunt and Inshass. I feel I should say that “Combined Source” is not an official Al Khamsa term. Al Khamsa has never defined modern breeding groups one way or the other. Al Khamsa supporters have tried for over thirty years to come up with a term for horses that have multiple ancestral elements and don’t belong to some breeding group defined by some other organization. In Al Khamsa terms, a modern “Straight Egyptian” is likely to have four ancestral elements: Egypt I (before the RAS), Egypt II (after the RAS), Blunt and Inshass.

]]> By: Haroon http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22866 Haroon Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:25:37 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22866 Hi edward I hv been reading ur blogs for a while Now truely they are informative .I just wana know do u know any thing about the present Arabian horses in Pakistan .Pakistan is a full member of waho .with Arabian horses stabled at remount depot Mona including the progeny of mare nasem-e-hijaz by Saudi king .do u have any information on it .thanks Hi edward I hv been reading ur blogs for a while Now truely they are informative .I just wana know do u know any thing about the present Arabian horses in Pakistan .Pakistan is a full member of waho .with Arabian horses stabled at remount depot Mona including the progeny of mare nasem-e-hijaz by Saudi king .do u have any information on it .thanks

]]> By: Yulia Maniscalco http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22837 Yulia Maniscalco Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:09:40 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22837 Dear Edouard. Sorry that I am writing here but I did not find where I can leave a privet massage for you. I tried to mail you in Al Hamsa but I doubt that you have received any massage. My question is concerned Hamdani horses. Please mail me this address: ninabara(at sign)gmail.com, and I answer you and tell my story. Or may be it is possible for me to publish my post with photo in some place here. If it is so, point me where. Thank you for all the information that you publish in this blog. It is really rare and precious. Best regards, Yulia. Dear Edouard.
Sorry that I am writing here but I did not find where I can leave a privet massage for you. I tried to mail you in Al Hamsa but I doubt that you have received any massage. My question is concerned Hamdani horses. Please mail me this address: ninabara(at sign)gmail.com, and I answer you and tell my story. Or may be it is possible for me to publish my post with photo in some place here. If it is so, point me where.
Thank you for all the information that you publish in this blog. It is really rare and precious.
Best regards,
Yulia.

]]> By: Jeanne Craver http://daughterofthewind.org/from-combined-source-to-straight-arabians/comment-page-1/#comment-22833 Jeanne Craver Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:31:22 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=3027#comment-22833 You are indeed on a roll! We are waiting excitedly to hear what is next! You are indeed on a roll! We are waiting excitedly to hear what is next!

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