Kazmeen photo at Cairo Agriculture Museum

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on February 22nd, 2015 in Egypt

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10 Responses to “Kazmeen photo at Cairo Agriculture Museum”

  1. It is interesting in studying the details of Kazmeen, in all his various photos. One does find some of his look in the Babson horses which is understandable when you consider his sire is Sotamm, sire of Babson’s import *Bint Serra, and Kazmeyn is the grandsire of *Bint Bint Sabbah, another Babson import. Kazmeen’s greatest gift was the quality of his daughters. Interestingly one of his very few sons *Ibn Gamila (x Gamila Manial) a true Kuhaylan Mimreh, was imported to the U.S. in 1934 by Frances Dodge of the famed Dodge family here in Michigan. However, her Egyptian imports were for her personal enjoyment and not used for breeding, so *Ibn Gamila left no produce. For most people Kazmeen’s name is familiar as the maternal grandsire of Nazeer.

  2. What about the color?
    I was just there and had it translated by a dear friend and she said dark chestnut.

  3. you are right it does say dark chestnut, ashqar ghamiq. Maybe it is a mistake?

  4. would be curious to look at Lady Ann Blunt’s notes

  5. jennie lees has the original crabbet studbook, one of them at least.

  6. Lady Anne Blunt never saw Kasmeyn! She left England for the last time in 1915, and spent the rest of her life in Egypt, where she died in 1917. Kasmeyn was foaled in England in 1916. We know that Kasmeyn is registered as bay in three different stud books (the British Arab Horse Society stud book, Weatherby’s General Stud Book, and the stud book of the Egyptian Royal Agricultural Society), and he sired at least two bay foals out of chestnut mares: Bint Sabah out of Sabah, and Bint Samiha out of Samiha.

  7. In the letter from Jack Humphrey to WR Brown on his visit to Egypt in 1932, Mr. Humphrey says: “[Kazmeyn] he is a bay horse of fine quality, descended from Blunt Stock.” Thus this would be an eye witness as to Kazmeen’s color from someone who was a keen observer and knowledgeable person on Arabian horses. In the photo above Kazmeen appears to be in about the same condition as when Humphrey saw him in 1932 at which time Ibn Rabdan [dark chestnut] was the dominant and most heavily used sire. I am guessing that Kazmeen might have been the seal brown color of his sire, Sotamm, which can look similar to the very deep dark liver chestnuts that Ibn Rabdan produced so it could have been a miscalculation by the person in Egypt labeling the photo.

  8. I wouold not take the labels on these Cairo Agricultural Museum photos very seriously. They are not part of the photos, as you can see from the snapshot above, and were produced much later than the photos, probably by museum clerks.

  9. How old was Kazmeen when the above photo was taken…and where was it taken?

    Where can more pictures of Kazmeen be found? and pictures of his dam and sire?

  10. What a wonderful photo of Kazmeen. Such quality is hardly to be found anymore. Thanks for sharing Edouard ! I Always adored the Sotamm blood !

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