Comments on: One more picture of an Arabian under the snow http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/ Wed, 23 May 2012 18:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jenny Krieg http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-333475 Jenny Krieg Sat, 05 May 2012 17:08:07 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-333475 Awesome, Cathie! I wish you all the best. With both him and Solomon in the pedigree, you are stacking the deck for an athletic foal. Awesome, Cathie! I wish you all the best. With both him and Solomon in the pedigree, you are stacking the deck for an athletic foal.

]]> By: Edouard Aldahdah http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-332882 Edouard Aldahdah Fri, 04 May 2012 21:38:43 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-332882 He is one of the best Arabians out there. I love him. He is one of the best Arabians out there. I love him.

]]> By: Cathie Fye http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-332695 Cathie Fye Fri, 04 May 2012 15:05:38 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-332695 Just a note. We are getting the ball rolling on breeding Thank Heaven to DB Krush via transported semen this year. Hoping for an athlete! Just a note. We are getting the ball rolling on breeding Thank Heaven to
DB Krush via transported semen this year. Hoping for an athlete!

]]> By: Joe Ferriss http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19580 Joe Ferriss Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:32:33 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19580 This is something that I have been saying for quite a while now. You are welcome to say this however you want, Jeanne. This is something that I have been saying for quite a while now. You are welcome to say this however you want, Jeanne.

]]> By: Jeanne Craver http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19576 Jeanne Craver Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:17:39 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19576 Boy, do I agree! Charles always said that what we were after with the Davenports was what the Bedouin had in 1900, whatever that was. Can we steal that quote, Joe, for Al Khamsa?! Boy, do I agree! Charles always said that what we were after with the Davenports was what the Bedouin had in 1900, whatever that was. Can we steal that quote, Joe, for Al Khamsa?!

]]> By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19559 Edouard Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:34:15 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19559 Re: "because this breed is called “Arabian” horse that ultimately it is the culture that defines the breed, not the science" Joe, this is the best quote I have heard in a long time. I have also always felt that the Bedouins, as the original custodians of the breed, are those who get to define what an Arabian horse is. Re: “because this breed is called “Arabian” horse that ultimately it is the culture that defines the breed, not the science”

Joe, this is the best quote I have heard in a long time. I have also always felt that the Bedouins, as the original custodians of the breed, are those who get to define what an Arabian horse is.

]]> By: Joe Ferriss http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19551 Joe Ferriss Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:25:55 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19551 Good points all. And it further indicates why the science of DNA is limited to what it can and can't do. I have always felt that because this breed is called "Arabian" horse that ultimately it is the culture that defines the breed, not the science. Good points all. And it further indicates why the science of DNA is limited to what it can and can’t do. I have always felt that because this breed is called “Arabian” horse that ultimately it is the culture that defines the breed, not the science.

]]> By: R.J. Cadranell http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19525 R.J. Cadranell Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:23:04 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19525 Yes Ambar, good point. I'll make one more point: assuming you could identify a marker that seemed to be unique to Thoroughbreds and Thoroughbred crosses, you would have no way of knowing whether it was originally an Arabian marker that went extinct in the Middle East but was preserved in the Thoroughbred breed. Yes Ambar, good point. I’ll make one more point: assuming you could identify a marker that seemed to be unique to Thoroughbreds and Thoroughbred crosses, you would have no way of knowing whether it was originally an Arabian marker that went extinct in the Middle East but was preserved in the Thoroughbred breed.

]]> By: Jeanne Craver http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19494 Jeanne Craver Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:28:15 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19494 Good additional point, Ambar! Good additional point, Ambar!

]]> By: Ambar http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19492 Ambar Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:41:57 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19492 Considering the amount of Arabian topcrossing that was used to create the English Thoroughbred, any similarity at the DNA level between the two breeds is already explained, and cannot support an investigation of alleged historic "contamination" of the Arabian line. Considering the amount of Arabian topcrossing that was used to create the English Thoroughbred, any similarity at the DNA level between the two breeds is already explained, and cannot support an investigation of alleged historic “contamination” of the Arabian line.

]]> By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19349 Edouard Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:50:57 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19349 It won't work with the existing state of science on mtDNA, because the Raswan Ma'naghi theory is about originally asil Ma'naghi mares being crossed with Turkoman stallions by members of the Salqa tribe nomadizing in Northern Iraq. mtDNA markers are transmitted through the dam only. It won’t work with the existing state of science on mtDNA, because the Raswan Ma’naghi theory is about originally asil Ma’naghi mares being crossed with Turkoman stallions by members of the Salqa tribe nomadizing in Northern Iraq. mtDNA markers are transmitted through the dam only.

]]> By: Jenny Krieg http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19348 Jenny Krieg Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:35:02 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19348 For my own education, would someone please direct me to the sources in which Raswan tells of learning about a possible inclusion of Turkoman blood in the Ma'anaghi strain? Thanks! For my own education, would someone please direct me to the sources in which Raswan tells of learning about a possible inclusion of Turkoman blood in the Ma’anaghi strain?
Thanks!

]]> By: Bruce Peek http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19337 Bruce Peek Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:55:25 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19337 Maye we could find someone with known Ma'naghi close up in their horses pedigrees who could volunteer to have their horses tested by Gus Cothrans at the University of Kentucky. If the science has advanced far enough they could be checked to see if they had Thorobred genetic markers thus determining whether the whole Ma'naghis were contaminated by Turkomans theory holds water. best wishes Bruce Peek Maye we could find someone with known Ma’naghi close up in their horses pedigrees who could volunteer to have their horses tested by Gus Cothrans at the University of Kentucky. If the science has advanced far enough they could be checked to see if they had Thorobred genetic markers thus determining whether the whole Ma’naghis were contaminated by Turkomans theory holds water.
best wishes
Bruce Peek

]]> By: Edouard http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19127 Edouard Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:57:42 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19127 He has the Ma'naghi strain in his pedigree... He has the Ma’naghi strain in his pedigree…

]]> By: Pam Studebaker http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19120 Pam Studebaker Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:56:00 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19120 I would think the Blue Star breeders in the US would flock to this horse. Any idea why they have not? I would think the Blue Star breeders in the US would flock to this horse. Any idea why they have not?

]]> By: Regina http://daughterofthewind.org/one-more-picture-of-an-arabian-under-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-19093 Regina Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:51:04 +0000 http://daughterofthewind.org/?p=2852#comment-19093 I like that stallion also.It's a little bit far away, I think he was a good match for my mare too. (dahmah/hadriya). it's sad that he has only one progeny. I like that stallion also.It’s a little bit far away, I think he was a good match for my mare too. (dahmah/hadriya). it’s sad that he has only one progeny.

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