Photo of the day: Bint Dharebah
Since we were discussing Monsoon, here is his most influential daughter, Bint Dharebah (x Dharebah). The DAHC pedigree database credits her with 7 registered foals and a total of 74 descendants as of the 2006 update. I have heard RJ quoted to the effect that she is the modern echo of *Reshan — perhaps he will expand on that for us. Photos courtesy of Jeanne Craver.
She seems very different from the other Haifi Davenports of the same generation. Like she would create a family in and of herself. Is it then a ‘mutation’ or a throwback? i guess it does not really matter.
Bint Dharebah was different, and she did found her own subgroup within the Haifi Davenports. At Craver Farms, a few efforts were made to get inbred foals from certain key mares who had proven themselves to be outstanding producers. Portia was bred to her grandson Plantagenet to prodoce Tudor CF, Bint Antan produced a foal by her grandson Cathay, and Dharebah was bred to her grandson Monsoon to produce Bint Dharebah.
I don’t think Bint Dharebah was a mutation. You can see where she came from by looking at her parents. She combined the fine skin, big eyes, and sensitive disposition from Dharebah with the long neck and upright carriage of Monsoon. There wasn’t anything else like Bint Dharebah, until she started producing her own string of successful foals. She is another example of how inbreeding, this time to Dharebah, doesn’t produce uniformity but instead turns up genetic variation.
From the front, and when something caught her attention, Bint Dharebah could be very pretty, as these photos show. But I think most people would have walked right by her without a second look when she was in the pasture with the other broodmares. Her profile was very straight. What really set her apart was her carriage and vitality, but that wasn’t readily apparent when she was out grazing.
That’s right, RJ. Her descendants followed her strongly, although they were usually prettier. I guess the combination of Monsoon and his grandmother Dharebah must have left some recessives doubled up there. Audacity, Cantabile, Domina, Anjou, Nuance, Dulcet and so on… beautiful mares, all!
Edouard, R.J.
Opinion or just thinking, Ceres is the key to these extreme looks. Doubling up on Ceres gifts this.
Wisteria, today, could be a subgroup! There are stallions
of multiple Ceres. Also a son to breed back to that mare.
Want more Bint Dharebah’s, grey, and More Ceres!
Want Monsoons breed this line Chestnut! Tripoli will come
through.
Jackson – Bedouin Arabians – Taos
I am just beginning to notice two distinct influences in Davenport breeding of K. Haifi horses, and that’s Ceres and Portia/Iras. I am not yet able to identify which specific influence each is responsible for.
Both Jackson and Edouard are right here. And Ceres and Iras were both representative of the full sisters, Dharebah and Dharanah. Ceres and Iras had the same pedigree, but shuffled in the grandparent generation.
Aramis (Tripoli x Dhalana)
Ceres
Dharebah (Dhareb x Antarah)
El Alamein (Dhareb x Antarah)
Iras
Portia (Tripoli x Dhalana)
An awful lot of current Kuhaylan Haifi breeding was produced by using the descendants of these two mares, wound back and forth.
Ceres was a taller, more elegant mare. Iras was more compact and round. Both had equal dish, but Iras had a higher placed jibbah with an elongated dish, and Ceres had more the typical “shield” between the eyes, with the dish placed right below. Both were chestnut. Iras’s color was more glorious and iridescent.
Sorry, TMI! It sounds like a commercial.
Jeanne,
There was another line that was of equal via one stallion!
Sadly, he was never an influence of note! Eden I remember Charles once saying he was either the best or worst. But then he said that a lot. Silvia line………….
Of all the horses I could have bought from Charles way back when, I remember Eden. I was looking for a different source, introduction within the Krush. I stayed with the El Alamein direction.
I always wish I had the (gut) mind set, and brought Eden here.
Odd I never really heard much about him?
Eduard if you find any of this line left, female. You will see a different direction. But ever so similar in quality.
As Michael says, the horses rule in the long run. Yet
it was I who walked away.
Jackson from way back when…………….
Just reread ………….. Edouard………………
I get sometimes in way to big of a hurry! Sorry
In the top photo, the gray mare in the background on the far right is Portia. (The gray mare in the right in the bottommost photo is Pretty Fancy, for the record.)
Jeanne,
Not TMI! For me at least there’s NEI(never enough information)on the Davenports.
Yes, Ceres + Iras is a wonderful combination. Wish I could have seen both of those mares. And the Bint Dharebah family is forever in my heart…
Eden was lovely. Inbred Sir and extremely full of vitality. His skin could hardly contain him, but he was a lamb. He was sold up into British Columbia, and was found dead one morning. His owner was inconsolable. She had loved him dearly. He only had the chance to sire a couple of foals: two daughters, who left offspring, but it looks like it is now gone from both.
Eden’s skull was preserved and given to Frank Hannesschlager, who showed it to me when I visited him in British Columbia in the 1980s. Frank’s theory was that Eden had been running, slid downhill in the mud, was unable to stop, and his head slammed into the fence. You could see the damage to the skull. I don’t know what happened to the skull after Frank died.