Does anyone happen to know whether the two lines to El Dahma, through Bint Obeya (e.g., that of Bukra) and Nadra (e.g., that of Halima) share the same mtDNA haplotype?
Yesterday night, my Wisteria CF delivered a tall grey filly by Javera Thadrian at 11.30 pm, at Craver Farms. “Narrow blaze, nothing on her legs. Reddish coat, grey “goggles” around her eyes”, says Jeanne. Both mother and filly are reportedly doing well. I so wish I was there now. Instead, I am in a Washington corporate office drafting memos (and writing about the filly, from a distance). Oh well.
Pictured above is Zarlan the handsome 1964 chestnut Al Khamsa stallion who I saw at age 15 and was noble and full of Arabian character. His pedigree blends 5 different ancestral elements. In person, he was beautiful, agile, noble and the image of many of the traditional turn of the century horses in my old books. I want to thank Edouard for such a stimulating series of posts on the fate of Al Khamsa bloodlines. I wish to add my reasonable reply here in response to the this topic “combined source” and “straightness”. This subject has its complexities which are great food for thought and need to be explored further. Since my reply is a bit long I decided to put it up as an additional thread on this subject. I am just old enough to remember the common types of terminology that were circulating in 1970 and also before that, when such terminology was found in various books and magazines on the Arabian horse. Before there was a Pyramid Society, there was, for a long time, a general interest in labeling terminology in the Arabian horse market place in America so we need to put the roots of this…
In Al Khamsa parlance, a “Combined Source” Al Khamsa Arabian, is one that has more than one Al Khamsa ancestral element in its pedigree. Ancestral elements are the basic building blocks of Al Khamsa. You can learn about them more by clicking here. Take the Early American Foundation Stallion Caravan (Ribal x Fasal) for instance. Caravan is a Combined Source, and respresents one of the most popular early combinations (Crabbet and Davenport) as his sire Ribal is a Crabbet stallion that blends the EGYPT I and the BLUNT ancestral elements, and his dam Fasal adds the DAVENPORT ancestral element. Combined Source horses such as Caravan, Alla Amarward (Stambul x Makina) , Ghazi (Rodan x Guemura), El Sabok (El Jafil x Narkeesa) Bint Sedjur (Ribal x Sedjur) and many, many others, helped popularize Arabian breeding in the USA in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s, way before Straight Egyptian Arabians became popular. All the big farms and breeders of these early days, Kellogg, Maynesboro, Selby, Travelers Rest, Hearst, and even Babson (with the introduction of Turfa and others) were based on some measure of Combined Source breeding. Combined Source breeding was all motherhood and apple pie. Now, Combined Source is looked down…
Marge Smith asked this very poignant question in one of the comments to an entry below. If anyone has answers to this specific question, please feel free to share them in the form of comments to this entry. I have my own set of answers, which I will thrown into the mix.
The other day, I was reflecting back on what is already ten years of interest and involvment in asil breeding in the USA. Ellen May and Jeanne Craver had asked me to provide some answers to questions they had drafted about the experiences and memories of second generation Al Khamsa supporters (i.e., people whose parents had been involved in breeding Al Khamsa horses, in my case desert-bred horses from a similar background). And these answers, which you can read in the next Khamsat magazine, got me thinking further: “of all the horses and bloodlines I was fortunate to become acquainted with in the last ten years, how come I ended up with a Kuhaylah Hayfiyah mare of Davenport bloodlines”? Part of the answer is fate. I did some of my studies at the University of Chicago, four hours away from Craver Farms, where there were still some 100 plus Davenport mares and stallions back in 2000. Tzviah Idan put me in touch with Charles and Jeanne Craver, and an ensuing friendship developed that endures until today. Fate again in 2007, when Anita Enander called me and said: “You need to own an Arabian mare, and I think I know which…
If you now type “daughtersofthewind.org” and “daughtersofthewind.com” (with an “s” in daughters) you will be redirected to this site, because I just bought these two domain names. Two years ago, the plan was to buy these two domain names, and the idea was to call this blog “Daughters of the Wind”, or “banat al-rih”, which is how Arabs used to refer to their Arabian mares in literature, poetry and folklore. The two sites were not available then but they are now.
Check out the program of this interesting conference to be held in Sicily, Italy in two weeks time. The choice of the venue is ominous, since Sicily is along with Andalusia, one of the regions of Europe where Arabo-Islamic culture blended with Western culture over several centuries. Note also the panel of speakers and the sponsorship by WAHO, which brings me to my next observation: that WAHO is slowly but surely moving towards more and more emphasis on linking the Arabian horses to its roots, its heritage and historical context. A good thing, for sure.
Just reposting this old article, to stimulate a new discussion around it. It is slightly revised, to reflect the evolution of thought on this issue. —————- The idea of an international registry for Asil Arabian horses has been gaining momentum over the last few years, not only within Western asil breeeders’ circles, but among Arab breeders as well. Such a registry is long overdue and would be the purists’ answer to WAHO, in my opinion. Several Western organizations have come close to establishing such a registry. The largest effort so far is that of the Asil Club in Germany, which in addition to bloodlines represented in Western breeding [Egyptian bloodlines, various bloodlines from the USA, the remaining asil lines from Crabbet in the UK, Weil-Marbach in Germany and Babolna in Hungary] also includes the horses of the Royal Arabian Studs of Bahrain and those of the Saudi Arabian government stud of Dirab. In the 1970s, the Asil Club also considered adding the Tunisian horses to its list, and is currently considering adding the Syrian horses (more on this move later, and what I think of it). Then there is Al Khamsa. While their roster is not the most inclusive (indeed,…
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I love this old photo of the stallion *Houran, a Kuhaylan Tamri, imported by Homer Davenport to the USA in 1906. The horse is standing so proudly, his neck beutifully arched, and his gaze fixing a far-reaching point on the horizon. Tood bad *Houran only left one daugher in asil USA breeding (the Ma’naghiyah Sbayliyah mare Bint Nimnaarah). *Houran was sired by a Hadban Enzahi stallion of the ‘Anazah tribes, some branches of which were home to many Hadban Enzahi marabit, such as Hadban Mushaytib, the most respected. By the way, have you seen the updated site of the Davenport Conservancy? It has a series of seminal articles by Charles Craver, which I am never tired of re-reading.
This is an excerpt from Christa Salamandra’s book “A New Old Damascus: Authenticity and Distinction in Urban Syria”, which I am about to finish reading. It has nothing to do with horses nor with Bedouins, but I thought you’d find her characterization of ‘asala’, authenticity, (from which ‘asil’, “he who is authentic”) interesting: “In Syria, as elsewhere in the Middle East, modernist notions of authenticity operate alongside and sometimes merge with indegenous understandings. The concept of authenticity, asala, has long been an important component of notions of the self and society in Arabic-speaking regions. Derived from the Arabic root, A-S-L, asala, “authenticity”, is related to asl, which translates as “origin”, “source”, “root”, and “descent”. Asl refers to a person’s social, genealogical, or geographic origins, or to the place from which his or her roots extend.” Then follows a discussion of the Western roots of this notion of asala and asil, which the authors traces to Romanticism in Europe, and the longing for everything pristine and unspoilt, and that’s when things becomes extrememly interesting, if applied to Arabian horses. It might (just might, because this is a complex issue, which needs more research) mean that Bedouins did not primarily refer to their horses as “asil”, at least not when interacting with each other.…
I will be in Kuwait for the week, for work, and paradoxically this might mean you will be reading more of me, just because there is little to do there after 9.00 pm, except work very hard (in case my boss is lurking)
Gertrude Bell took this view of the rooftops of the Arabian city of Hail in march 1914. Her collection of pictures at the University of Newcastle is a treasure trove.
The photo in the entry below got me looking for more Assyrian wall panels representing horses of distinctly Arabian type, like the one below. Compare with this shot of the Crabbet stallion Abu Zeyd (Mesaoud x Rose Diamond).
I just emerged from more than three days of power outage due a record setting snow storm that buried the Washington area under 30 inches of snow. I lost my telephone and internet connection last Friday night and did not get it back until this morning. I apologize to those of who wrote and were expecting a response during these few days, and particularly to the ladies at the Association du Cheval Arabe Bedouin (ACAB) in France. I have promised them a short article for their upcoming catalogue, which is going to press soon. So I am getting back to work on it now.
I just noticed I wrote my 500th blog entry a few days ago, and with it came the realization that the amount of material available on ‘Daughter of the Wind’ may soon become unmanageable to some of the readers less familiar with the various – and not always user-friendly – ways of navigating it. So here are few tips, keeping in mind that there are three columns to this blog, with the articles appearing on the left column: 1) if you are looking for information on the horses of a particular country (Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, France, Germany, etc) or just for a broad topic (Bedouins, Tribes, Strains, Racing, etc. ) then click under “Themes”, in the central column. You will find under each broad theme category all the blog entries that directly related to it. 2) if you are looking for more specific information (a particular strain e.g., Hamdani, Hayfi ; a particular breeding group e.g. Davenport or Crabbet; or particular famous breeder or family of breeders e.g. Saud, Mauvy, Blunt, then click under “Labels”, in the right column. You will need to scroll down to the middle of the column. 3) If you know what you are looking for and it’s very specific,…
Kent Mayfield of Second Wind Arabians invited me to speak at the Pyramid’s Society National Breeders Conference, 2010, in Atlanta Gerogia. The National Breeders Conference is an annual event organized by the Pyramid Society’s Education Committee, which Kent chairs, to educate its members about the Arabian horses of Egyptian bloodlines. This year’s theme is “Back to the Future: Models for Egyptian Arabian Breeding”. Other invited speakers are Joe Ferriss, Judith Forbis, Hans Nagel, Anita Enander, Scott Benjamin and Cindy McCall. I bet it’ll be extremely interesting.
[Republishing this piece, which was already published here last July – Edouard] The mare El Samraa is certainly one of the least documented horses in Egytian Arabian horse breeding. To me, that’s a big problem. Heck, it should be a big problem for every researcher and breeder with an interest in these horses. Given El Samraa’s contribution to mainsteam Egpytian breeding (she is the grand-dam of Sameh, and the great-great-grand dam of Al Metrabbi, among countless other descendents), it is even surprising that researchers have not spent more time investigating her. Below is what we know of El Samraa: her color (grey); her date of birth (1924); the year she was acquired by the King of Egypt (1931); the name – only the name – of the man she was purchased from (Shaykh Omar Abdel Hafiz); her registration number in the Inshass (the King’s private stud farm) Original Herd Book: (#13); the name of the man she was later sold to (Mostafa Bey Khalifah); and the year she was sold to this man (1941). In short: three dates; two names of people, none of which appears to have been her breeder; and a color. That’s it. Most of you will have to agree with me that such factual…
This picture is from Hungary, and features Laszlo Kiraly’s lovely mare Scheherazade B, who is heavy in the blood of the Babolna mare 25 Amurath Sahib.
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Lebanese-American Amin Rihani (1976-1940) was a man of many talents. He is best remembered as the man who introduced free verse into Arabic poetry. He was also one of the early figures of the Arab literary movement known as “kuttab al-mahjar” or “writers of the diaspora” to which Khalil Gibran and other Arab-American intellectuals also belonged. He was one of the first intellectuals to support Arab nationalism. He was also a close friend of Saudi Arabia’s king Abdul al-Aziz al-Saud, and wrote a number of accounts of his travels in Arabia such as “Muluk al-Arab” (Kings of the Arabs), which won critical acclaim, and “Tarikh Najd al-Hadith” (the Modern History of Najd). The historians of oil discovery in the Middle East will also remember him as one of the first brokers of the enduring relationship between the House of Saud and the American businesses in general and oil business in particular. It was perhaps through this latter role that he became acquainted with Arabian horses. Rihani was influential in the importation of four Arabian mares bred by the House of Saud and imported to the USA by Albert Harris of Chicago in the early 1930s. He was also a key…
We in Syria always judge horses by their breeders and where they come from, an Arabian horse is as good as his breeder. When we have a horse bred by a legend we never ever question the purity because we take the word of men as a contract and when they swear by the name of the mighty god we do not listen to what other people think or say about the purity of our horses and modern registration does not mean much to people who are still concerned about their Asil horses, specially the legendary Bedouin breeders. We are very proud we still call horses by their strains and breed them by their strains and non in the world does that apart from us or may be in Bahrain. We do not talk about other people’s horses and it is considered a bad character to talk about Asil horses and doubt their purity and it is against being a man as it is like talking about our women and their purity. Since old times the Arabs recognised the Asil from non Asil and there were always people whose job is to recognise these horses but the Arab did use…
ADA Intuition (“Poppy”) is the 2005 chestnut daughter of Atticus and Capucine, a straight Davenport Kuhaylah Hafiyah. This is her third ride after a year in pasture after just three months of under saddle work, so she is quite green still, but well behaved through an arena with jumps (and a neighboring goat pen, and 3 braying miniature donkeys, and let’s not forget the flocks of brightly colored bicyclists whipping down the road past the arena!) If you get tired of watching her balance herself in the arena, skip to about 6:20 and watch her stroll across the little stream and head up into the hills… If you want more, here she is on the longe line, a scant hour after getting off the trailer:
I still haven’t resolved a lingering dilemma that has been haunting me since I started ‘Daughter of the Wind’. In the course of this blog’s life, I have come across a lot of precious information I did not have access to before. That’s in no small part thanks to the readers of ‘Daughter of the Wind’, most of the time through personal emails. A lot of this information is generally positive, in the sense that it confirms the asil status of a particular line. This for instance is the case of the Tunisian desert-bred import Barr, or the Egyptian desert-bred import El Nasser, who were been outcasts for decades until they were recently rehabilitated. Sometimes the information is negative, in the sense that it throws the asil status of a particular line into serious doubt. In such cases what I usually do is try to go back to first-hand sources to verifiy it, or cross-check it with another indepedent sources. Sometimes things are clarified and everything falls back into place (ie, the line is asil). Sometimes, more research is needed to disentangle rumor from reality and the horse remains in limbo, at least as far I am concerned. Sometimes, the suspicion is confirmed…
This photo shows Brass Band CF and Charles Craver in what Americans call (Arab) “native costume”. As this photo shows, Brass was an exquisite mover. I remember my first afternoon at the Cravers in 1999 (it had been raining in the morning and we had looked at stallions inside the barn, but it had stopped raining after lunch and we’d moved to the little arena next to the barn to turn stallions loose). Brass came out and enjoyed his liberty just like the others, but once Charles had caught him, the routine changed. Charles shook the lead line a bit (I remember no other cue), and Brass started to piaffe. My jaw dropped — flies buzzed in and out — possibly I stopped breathing, I don’t recall. Another quiet request, and he halted. Wow.
My personal laptop chose to die in San’aa, Yemen where I have been for one week. I can’t blame it, it’s a beautiful city. It fell on a paved street outside the buidling of the Ministry of Health, and the screen broke. Oh well. He was 6 years old, which in laptop life is maybe like 60 for humans. At least the photos and other horse material are safe, I think. Keep the conversation going while I find him a successor. RIP Toshiba Satellite.
Monique Brandenburg from the Netherlands sent me this picture of a chestnut Arabian stallion from Iran, along with some information. Before delving into discussing these extremely interesting horses, let me say a couple things upfront: first, Iran is not an Arab country; it is an ethnically diverse country populated by ethnic Persians (who speak Farsi, among other tongues), Turkmen and Azeris (who speak Turkic dialects) and Kurds (who speak Kurdish), among others. That said, Iran does have a small Arab minority of about 1 million people (who speak Arabic), mainly but not only concentrated in its south-western province of Khuzistan. Many of these Arabic speakers belong to long-settled tribal groupings like Bani Kaab and branches of Bani Lam. The latter are originally from Central Arabia way back and are well known breeders of asil Arabian horses. So in many ways Iran is like Egypt: neither are in Arabia Deserta, the homeland of the Bedouin and their desert Arabian horse, but both nonetheless have a very small population of settled peasant Arabs tribes in the parts of the country closest to Arabia Deserta (e.g., Egypt’s peasant Tahawi tribe in the Sharqiyah province). These tribe kept breeding Arabian horses, and neighboring Persian tribes like the Bakhtiaris also bred Arabians. The…
Since we were admiring Fragrance, I thought I’d share this one, taken by Anita Enander this summer, of Fragrance CF in her summer coat . Though unfortunately the shot is not perfectly framed, the mare’s style comes through.
I am excited to introduce Adrien Deblaise as a guest blogger on Daughter of the Wind. Adrien comes from a distinguished French family of Arabian horse breeders and equestrian librarians. His family’s stud of Blanc Marine, near Saintes, in western France, has been breeding Arabians of Algerian, Moroccan and Tunisian lines since 1985 with an emphasis on endurance lines. In addition, their bookstore, Philippica, is a real treasure trove of old literature on horses and horse people. He will be writing in French about horses that were significant in French and North African breeding in the 1970s and 1980s. Those of you who can’t read French can cut-and-past the article, and throw it into Google Translate, which keeps gettting better and better. I will personally translate some articles as time permits. Adrien, like Pure Man, Ambar, Jill, Teymur, Majid, Clothilde, Patrick, Bassam H, and many other readers and contributors to Daughter of the Wind from around the world, including myself, is part of a ‘younger’ generation of desert-bred Arabian horse enthusiats who are keeping the flame alive. Daughter of the Wind was originally intended as a platform for them to communicate and share information with each other, while also reaching out of the ‘young at heart’.
If you live in Europe or the USA and want to breed your Arabian mare to an asil stallion straight from Arabia Deserta, one who was actually born there, you now have a number of options at hand. 1) If you live in the United States, then your only option for the time being is Mlolshaan Hager Solomon, a 1986 grey stallion bred by Shaykh Muhammad bin Salman Aal Khalifah of Bahrain, and owned by Bill Biel of Michigan. Strain: Kuhaylan al-Mulawlish, his sire a Rabdan stallion. Hager Solomon is 23 this year, and he has sired only one or two asil foals so far, so you should catch him while he is still alive. 2) If you live in the United Kingdom, then the place to go is Jenny Lees’ Pearl Island Arabian Horse Stud. Jenny has Krayaan Dilmun, a 1992 chestnut stallion, also bred by Shaykh Muhammad bin Salman Aal Khalifah of Bahrain. Strain: Kuhaylan al-Kraay, sire a Ma’naghi stallion. Krayaan Dilmun, like Mloshaan, is from a very rare strain of Arabian horses, of which only the Kingdom of Bahrain has representatives. I also undestand that Jenny has an old grey Rabdan stallion on loan from Bahrain, but it is perhaps not the right time to talk…
Click on the YouTube link below to listen to a story and poem (in Arabic) about ‘Arar ibn Shahwan, the original owner (ra’i) of the marbat of Dahman Shahwan. The audio was prepared by Sa’d al-Hafi al-‘Utaybi. ‘Arar is the from the very noble and ancient Dhayaghim clan of the Abidah section of the Qahtan Bedouin tribe. The poem records an episode of the Dhayaghim saga, when this clan and others left their original home of Wadi Tathlith in Southern Arabia after a sequence of severe droughts, and moved northwards to settle in the mountains around the central Arabian town of Hail, which were then inhabited by Tai tribes and were known as Jabal Tai. There the Dhayaghim and other southern clans merged with some Tai tribes to form the core of the Shammar confederation, which gave Jabal Tai it’s new name: Jabal Shammar. By the way, the Ibn Rashid ruling clan of the Shammar of Jabal Shammar traces to the Dhayaghim clan.
Charles Craver took this picture of my Wisteria yesterday, and sent it to me.
This is the fourth part of a great series by Joe Ferriss in Arabian Essence, featuring popular sire lines from the Egyptian breeding.
This video was taken in August at the open barn session hosted by Diane Lyons of Desert Lily Arabians. Lustre CF, Affinity CF’s full sister, is seen about 4:30 into the video. (I have it on good authority that Affinity is an even better mare–) Right after her is Javera Thadrian’s full sister, GH Janet. Enjoy! Desert Lily Arabians Open House 2009 This video was taken in August at the open barn session hosted by Diane Lyons of Desert Lily Arabians. Lustre CF, Affinity CF’s full sister, is seen about 4:30 into the video. (I have it on good authority that Affinity is an even better mare–) Right after her is Javera Thadrian’s full sister, GH Janet. Enjoy!
Ce modeste article intitulé des paroles du Sage (Robert Mauvy) fait suite à celui traitant de la consanguinité : « Ah cet embreeding », ainsi qu’en réponse au questionnement de Monsieur R.J. Cadranell. Il fallait lire : « (…) la dure vie nomade, alliée à l’environnement hostile ainsi qu’aux conditions climatiques implacables joueraient leur rôle de régulateur éliminant du même coup sujets et gènes récessifs indésirables (…) » Dans de telles conditions de survie, un sujet affligé du moindre handicap n’a que peu de chance de salut, et, par voie de conséquences, n’engendre aucune descendance. Le sujet éliminé ne peut donc être porteur ni parasiter de quelque manière que ce soit le reste du cheptel. Il est reproché très souvent à la pratique de la consanguinité d’infliger une diminution de la vitalité ainsi que de la fertilité et pousser à l’hypernervosité ; pour tout dire conduire à une dégénérescence. Nous nous trouvons donc au fait de la question : « le sursum des hérédités entre elles et la possibilité de leur faire atteindre leur maximum d’intensité » avec ce dilemme entre l’hérédité saine … ou morbide. Mais encore une fois, la race chevaline la plus aboutie qu’est le Cheval Arabe de Sang Pur nous a apporté des géniteurs dotés des plus…
In 1887, Lady Anne Blunt purchased the little-known desert-bred mare Jilfa from her breeder, Khashman al-Kassab of the Mawaheeb section of the Sba’ah Bedouin tribe. She was imported to Crabbet in 1888, as part of a batch that also included Azrek, and Ashgar, a Saqlawi Ubayri from the Shammar. Jilfa, a Jilfat Sattam al-Bulad by strain, was given away in 1896. I have never seen a photo of Jilfa.. At Crabbet, Jilfa produced Jamusa by Azrek, who in turn produced Mareesa in 1902, by Mareb (Mesaoud x Mansura, by Ashgar out of Meshura, another imported mare rarely found in Crabbet pedigree). Interestingly, Mareesa blends the three 1888 desert imports with the rare Meshura line, providing for an unusual early Crabbet pedigree. Mareesa produced the pretty Alfarouse by Berk (by now the line was out of Crabbet) and her sister Yakuta by Rasim (Feysul x Risala). In 1937, the latter produced Rasheeqa by the closely related Azym (Sher-i-Khurshid x Alfarouse), a son of Yakouta’s sister Alfarouse. Rasheeqa was 100% old Crabbet breeding and both her sire and her dam were of the same Jilfan strain. Rasheeqa produced the mare Resique in 1948, by Aaron (Algol x Rythma by Berk), carrying the asil Jilfa tail female…
Here is a seminal article by Charles Craver advocating for need to breed “Combined Source” bloodlines..
As Daughter of the Wind slowly turns into an international virtual community of people involved or interested in preserving the real asil Arabian horse where it can be found, I thought I’d issue this message: By now, many of you who read that blog know which Arabian horses are of interest to this community. These include Arabian horses from lines native to the following countries: Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Kuwait, Yemen, Bahrain, Lebanon, Jordan, Qatar, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Israel/Palestine, and to a lesser extent Mauritania, Sudan, Chad, Pakistan, and India. Of course, not all the Arabian horses from these countries are of interest, and I will be making that call for now, pending a broader discussion (one of the privileges of owning a blog is that you get to make the last call on what gets published and what doesn’t). In the West, the following breeding groups are of interest: Babolna (Hungary), old French (Pompadour, Mauvy), Weil (Germany), early American Foundation (Davenport, Babson, Brown, Dickinson, Huntington, Hearst, Crane..), Saudi imports to the USA (Harris, Roach, Cobb, Rogers..), old English (Courthouse, Crabbet), etc. I may have missed a few. If you think you own or know of a horse…
Part 3 of Joe Ferriss’ article “Something Old, Something New” is out in the Arabian Essence online newsletter. Check it out. I was with Joe last month in Oregon and I can tell you nobody knows how to describe a horse like Joe. He sees things we average folks can’t see.
The series on desert-bred Arabian imports to North Africa continues thanks to breeder and blog reader A. Deblaise. This is Aziz, one of the earliest desert-breds imported to Algeria by the French. I know nothing about his strain or his original breeder. All I know is that he is present in the back of the pedigrees of some really good Tunisian and Algerian horses, like the pretty Kuhaylat al-‘Ajuz mare Hadia (Kefil x Rafiaa by Bango) from Tunisia, pictured below. Hadia has three lines to Aziz, though his three daughters El Keira, Fakhera, and Gueddima.
Something tells me that there may a number of asil lines down in South America. A non-negligible number of Arabians of Crabbet, Babolna, and French bloodlines were exported to this part of the world, which to me is terra incognita. There were aslo some direct importations from the desert, such as that of Don Hernan Ayerza. All these horse must have left something. In the USA, the best known South American asil mare is the Saqlawiyah Jadraniyah mare *Aire (by Ali x Raira by the Crabbet-bred Rustnar) was bred in Brazil, from Ayerza bloodlines and was imported to to the USA in the 1934 by General Dickinson of Travelers Rest Farms. She still has asil descendents in the USA (and nice ones, too) and her tail female, although endangered, is still extant. Jill Erisman wrote a nice article summarizing the status of line within Al Khamsa, in the last Khamsat. Let me cut to the chase. If anyone knows someone, or knows someone who knows someone who can and wants to write and research asil Arabian in South America, then please let me know. He or she would be invited to contribute to this blog. Language is not a problem, I will find someone to…
This was taken at StarWest Stables, New Berlin, Illinois USA, in 2001 during the Al Khamsa convention (I think; maybe someone else will correct me). The horse is the 1982 Kuhaylan Haifi stallion Javera Thadrian; the rider is Edouard.
Blog contributor RJ Cadranell with his 1980 Davenport stallion, Atticus. I’m guessing Edouard is having a busy few days, so I thought I’d try to collect photos of participants here on horseback. If you have a photo to share, feel free to mail it to ambar@ambararabians.com. I also realized after my initial posting that this is a response to Joksimovic’s recent question: hello ! Dont misunderstand me but everybody talk about horses line ,pedigree,generation ,etc Nobody about riding this daughter of wind, the character of this good horses why ??Its to believe thats nobody riding .Why have or need the bedouin this horses ? And why they are what they are (very good horses) ???? (gazu)ride of long distances or what do you think? Maybe this horse is not for riding?? Thank you Joksimovic, you have an excellent point. This horse is absolutely for riding. It’s always good to be reminded what all this effort and verbiage is actually for. Blog contributor RJ Cadranell with the 1980 Davenport stallion, Atticus. I’m guessing Edouard is having a busy few days, so I thought I’d try to collect photos of participants here on horseback. 🙂 If you have a photo to share,…
Une question qui doit certainement être aussi vieille que l’élevage et assurément son antienne. Sujet controversé qui a fait couler déjà beaucoup d’encre et user de salive. Il est fort probable que cette polémique reste encore longtemps en bonne place au titre des débats alambiqués. Il n’est pour s’en rendre compte de confier au commun des mortels que tel ou tel sujet (cheval ou autre) est le produit d’un accouplement en famille, puis observer : très souvent, la première réaction de notre interlocuteur est de gêne enveloppée dans un profond mutisme, après un recul, l’indignation ne se fait pas attendre et c’est le tollé… Tout ceci malgré maintes expériences, observations, études et par suite discours ou dissertations malheureusement subis et reçus comme prolixes et dérangeants. Travaux devenus stériles et retombant inertes dans le creuset du savoir en attendant d’être rebattus. L’Inbreeding nous dit-on : “désigne chez un individu une consanguinité plus forte que celle de la moyenne dans une race donnée” plutôt subjectif ! Je laisserai donc cette définition à l’appréciation de chacun. Pour traduire, il s’agit dans les origines d’un sujet donné de la présence d’un ou plusieurs ancêtres communs répétés dans les générations. A certains de rétorquer qu’après…
The video below was shot in Qatar, and the rider is a Bedouin from Bani Hajar, a large branch of the tribe of Qahtan. This way of riding is called “Bdaawi riding”. I believe – but I am not sure – that the mare he is riding is from the from the horses exported to Qatar from the Hasa (al-Ihsaa) eastern province of Saudi Arabia. Most of the horses, the camel and the sheep owned by ordinary Qataris come from the eastern part of Saudi Arabia. Here in Saudi Arabia, we have several hundred horses like this mare that were not registered in the WAHO accepted studbook, despite being asil. These horses are currently overlooked. Notice how the mare runs with her hindquarters wide part. The Arabic term for a mare with hindquarters wide apart is “fajhah“. One can also tell this is a racy mare, because of the way she throws her forelegs forward, and the way she pushes her head and her neck forward too. This type of song is called “Samiri”. The words are, in transliterated Arabic: “atliqu al-khayl dama al-khayl mukhtalah, fikku quyudaha banat al-kuhaylah, nahmidu allahu ‘alyana ‘ammat akhbaruhu” which means, roughly translated: “let the horses run,…
Dr. Ameen Zaher did a study which found that *Hamrah had the highest relationship to the breed in U.S.A. of any stallion for the period 1907 to 1946. We ran pedigrees on samples of horses in a few of the stud books back in the 1970s and 1980s, and determined that between 88% and 90% of Arabians in the U.S.A. traced to Davenport blood, which means they probably trace to *Hamrah too (it’s hard to find Davenport ancestry without *Hamrah). A thin *Hamrah male line was maintained by Betty Baker through Ibn Wazir (foaled 1956) and his son Wazirs Azab (foaled 1971). Wazirs Azab had a son born in 1983 (Azabs Jem) and two more in 1985 (Azabs Jody and Azabs Fancy Man), but the line is believed to be extinct today. *Hamrah sired 34 fillies but only 19 colts. Only three of his colts sired purebred foals. Jeremah left a daughter, but both Ziki and Kilham founded sire lines, even though the sire lines are extinct today. The breeding herds sold from Hingham Stock Farm tended to be heavy on *Hamrah daughters and correspondingly light on *Hamrah sons. For example, F.E. Lewis bought six *Hamrah daughters: Hasiker, Tamarinsk, Moliah,…
Joe Ferriss wrote: “But perhaps now is a good time for some of us to free ourselves from the temptation for compartmentalized thinking about asil bloodlines with the aim of producing more Waddudas, or Sindidahs or Old Speckled Jellabis.” I couldn’t agree more. I think that we, and those who came before us, have done a wonderful job of both educating the public and preserving the various AK/asil lines over several decades. Dividing them into sub-groups by various criteria in order to preserve the uniqueness of the various groups was certainly the right way to go, and the Craver model with the Davenports, which created even more possibilities within a limited pool, sheer genius. It has occurred to me from time to time that perhaps we have now reached “Stage Two” where we should be deliberately blending more of the subgroups in new ways. I’m not saying we should stop doing what we’ve done, only starting doing something new alongside. Certainly some of it should be well-planned and done in the ‘Western mode’ of thinking, with specific goals in mind, but I can’t help thinking that some of it should be done ‘haphazardly’ [in comparison to our Western, compartmentalized way…
He was by Prince Hal x Sirrulya. Photo from Jeanne Craver
Here is the info on the Clark desert stallions: Nimr. Arab Horse Society stud book vol. III (1926) says: Foaled 1914. Imported. Brown; blaze, off fore and both hind socks white. Nimr’s sire was a Seglawi Jedran belonging to the late Abdul Hamid II., Sultan of Turkey. Yaz, his dam, was a Seglawieh Jedranieh. The original owner of the dam was Shiekh [sic] Ul Mashaeikh of the Anazeh tribe, who gave her to Hazim Bey, Governor of Baghdad. Hazim Bey took her to Constantinople, where he sold her to Sherif Ali Jaffer who gave her to Prince Mohuiddin. Owned by H.V. Musgrave Clark. Journal of the Arab Horse Society: “At the same time [as Atesh] came Nimr to the above Stud, a brown horse of the Seglawi Jedran strain, standing 15 hands, having great bone and substance. He was bred and owned by Prince Mohuiddin, son of the late Sherif of Mecca [sic], and ridden by him as a charger. He is a magnificent type of Arab, a good foal-getter and a winner of many prizes in the show ring.” Peter Upton adds that Nimr was imported c.1923 and owned by H.V.M. Clark c.1925. He also quotes Lady Wentworth: “A…
To expand on Edouard’s last comment here about our chats in Oregon: I believe that the Asil bloodlines are very flexible and forgiving in that they can be bred for generations in one narrow direction (i.e. show ring, or non-Bedouin riding disciplines), outside the influence of the originating culture, and then they can also be returned to the type of the kinds of horses found among the originating culture as long as the breeder maintains a good understanding of what that culture values in the horse, its purposes for the horse, and keeps an open mind to the broadest possible choices. One example is modern combined source breeding in Al Khamsa, which I feel represents a great deal of liberation from bloodline constraints. I am optimistic that there are still lots of possibilities for breeders. We need to preserve all the ingredients of the ideal recipe for the Arabian horse, and by example long time breeders have done a fine job of it. But perhaps now is a good time for some of us to free ourselves from the temptation for compartmentalized thinking about asil bloodlines with the aim of producing more Waddudas, or Sindidahs or Old Speckled Jellabis.
Hurrah! The Babolna Roster proposal unanimously (41 – 0) passed the second round of voting during the Al Khamsa assembly in Redmond, Oregon. This means, among other things, that the living descendants of the mare 25-Amurath Sahib and the stallion Siglavy Bagdady VI are now accepted by Al Khamsa, following a thorough research process. Below is a photo of the Babolna head stallion Farag II (Farag x 25-Amurath Sahib), courtesy of Tzviah Idan. To me, this marks the second step towards constituting an international Roster of asil Arabians horses, based on the Al Khamsa Roster. The first step was taken when Al Khamsa accepted the line of Soldateska (1911), the one remaining asil line from the Weil-Marbach stud in Germany, a few years ago.
Javera Chelsea (by Thane x HB Diandra by Mariner) belongs to Doris Park of Iowa, and she is certainly lucky to have her. This full sister of the grey Javera Thadrian is now at Craver Farms for a full brother-sister mating. Just try to find the slightest defect in this mare’s conformation. I haven’t been able to so far. Photos by Charles Craver.
Just got back from Oregon yesterday, and I am already swamped with work (yuck!). Of course, once there, and around horses and horse people, tweeting about the Al Khamsa Convention didn’t even cross my mind, and I’ll just have to come to terms with that. I will be writing about the Convention, the CMK Symposium, the barn tours, the rides in the Great Outdoors of the High Desert country, and all the wonderful people I saw there over the next few days (weeks?). I am having withdrawal symptoms.. Meanwhile, here is a pic of the 2009 Al Khamsa Board of Directors, taken by Karsten Scherling (hi, Karsten!). Find the outlier. From left to right: Jenny Krieg, Mary Gills (Sec), Lisa Rettke, Ellen May (Veep), Pam Studebaker (Prez), me, Rosemary Doyle, Monica Respet, and Marilyn McHallam.
Tomorrow I will be hitting the Oregon trail with the family to attend the 2009 Al Khamsa Convention, my first since 2005, as well as the CMK Symposium. This time I will be taking my video camera with me, so you should expect a couple video uploads when I return (September 1). While I doubt I will have the time to write as frenquently as I would have liked, you can follow convention updates and other news on my (admittedly under-utilized) Twitter account. There is also a Twitter widget at the bottom of this website (scroll down).
Check these two articles (Part 1 and Part 2) out. I hope to see Joe in Redmond, OR, next week. He’s traveling by bus with some indians as we speak.
This video by C. Mingst shows several of the stallions at Craver Farms: Regency (Hamdani), Triermain (K. Haifi), Zacharia (Haifi), Regatta (Hamdani), Brassband (Haifi), Badawi (Hamdani), and a group of mares, some of which are identified. Javera Thadrian is not there. If anyone has a video of this horse that they’d like to share, can they please send it to me and I will publish it here with due credits.
I have decided to start a new series called “barely surviving lines”. In doing so, I was inspired by both the latest issue of the Khamsat magazine, which focuses on rare asil lines in the USA, and by Anne McGaughey’s excellent website “Rare Al-Khamsa Strains“. These “barely surviving lines” are still in existence, or likely to be in existence, but we don’t know for sure. They are included on the basis of the existence of an horses 25 years (in 2009) or younger that trace to these lines. Featured “barely surviving lines” are mainly through the tail female (because of my bias of tracking down horses according to their strains, which are transmitted through the tail females), but I also include tail males, and some lines from the middle of the pedigrees. For those of you who may wonder about the worthiness of preserving these lines, I refer you to the discussion in the latest Khamsat. Opinions on the value of preserving these lines vary. On one end of the spectrum, some people will say that every endangered line is worth preserving, because of its intrinsic uniqueness, but also because it contribues to maintaining a broader gene pool. On the other end, others will maintain that lines…