Guesswork
Can anyone guess the origins of this stallion?
A/ Babson Egyptian
B/ New Egyptian
C/ Davenport
D/ Syrian
E/ Bahraini
F/ Saudi
G/ None of the above
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A blog on desert arabian horses, past, present and future
Can anyone guess the origins of this stallion?
A/ Babson Egyptian
B/ New Egyptian
C/ Davenport
D/ Syrian
E/ Bahraini
F/ Saudi
G/ None of the above
Wow, that is a tough one! I have seen horses from each of those groups look like this stallion. Gonna just wing it … D/ Syrian.
I know this horse, then I don’t answer. But he is one of my favourites in the entire world 😉
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Davenport?
not Davenport
My guess: Syrian or Bahraini
Neither!
hee hee! Since you told me, I know, but I agree he is a lovely horse that reminds me of some of the Davenport horses in the main Kuhaylan Haifi group.
He reminds me of some of the Egyptian-influenced horses we have here, but doesn’t look like my personal expectations of either a Babson or a New Egyptian. He does look athletic, though. I shall leave the guessing to other people in more congenial timezones!
I would personally guess maybe a Tunisian stallion with some admixture of very old French lines and a slim smattering of Egyptian, but that’s just a thought. He reminds me of some of the Combined Source types we see in the US, but obviously all Arabians are technically CS…
You win Moira! He is 100% Tunisian indeed, with a couple distant lines to Ibn Fayda I (a gift from Prine Kemal al Dine Hussein to the Tunisian government stud) but no French lines whatsoever. Interestingly the Tunisians do not consider Ibn Fayda I to be “Egyptian” because he preceded registration in the Egyptian studbook. Rather, an “oriental” import like the others.
Hehe, educated guesswork, that. I asked myself “what bloodlines might Edouard be interested in that would be a ‘trick question’ answer?” Tunisian was at the top of the list, and I did remember that they imported Egyptian lines, but that’s interesting re: how Ibn Fayda is conceptualized.
Too cool! So there are still some horses left of these bloodlines, whew!
Yes a handsome stallion indeed. I only saw this entry after seeing your more recent entry identifying his Tunisian origins. However in these pictures my first impression is of a horse reminiscent of the Davenport Haifi stallion Pulcher Ibn Reshan.
Interesting point about the elusive other Ibn Fayda (I), the chestnut one that went to Sidi Tabet, is that he is not identified in AHA Datasource or All Breed Pedigree Database. Two years younger than the bay Ibn Fayda, Ibn Fayda I (1925) went to Tunisia directly from Prince Kemal El Dine (hence not in any Egyptian stud book), where as the bay Ibn Fayda (1927) went to Inshass. There are a lot of inaccurate pedigrees in databases that do not seem to know abut the elusive Ibn Fayda I. Fortunately in the US we had an active studbook early enough in the 20th century to recognize and register horses imported from Egypt that are not in any studbook. (such as horses imported directly from the Princes or from the racing community).