On the strain of Ubayyah Umm Jurayss

I have managed to trace back the strain of Ubayyan Abu Jurayss (Umm Jurayss for the females) to the ‘Utayfat (alt. spellings ‘Atayfat and ‘Otayfat), one of the main clans of the Wuld ‘Ali tribe of ‘Anazah. But I don’t know yet how they got to the Wuld ‘Ali and where from.

In the below tree of the Anazah clans by Ibn ‘Abbar, the Utayfat are in red and the overall Wuld ‘Ali in green. The ‘Utayfat, whose leading clan is (I think) al-Wati, are under the Dhana Dhuri section of the Wuld ‘Ali, which is led by the family of Ibn Smeyr (alt. spelling Smeer/Sumayr/Semeyr etc). The Wuld ‘Ali at large are led by the clan of al-Tayyar.

Of course, this is significant insofar as one of the main line of Egyptian Arabians, that of El Shahbaa, is from the strain of Ubayyah Umm Jurayss. Umm Jurayss means “mother of the little bell”.

10 Replies to “On the strain of Ubayyah Umm Jurayss”

  1. CuCayC diminutive again? Root for bell JRS? Bell something like “jars”? That feels wrong, like there should be a vowel between the and the .

    Also, what is the story behind the little bell?

    1. Fascinating formatting discovery there. That should read “there should be a vowel between the ‘r’ and the ‘s’.” And no strike-through for the question about the bell!

  2. I believe, and God knows best, that it goes back to Ubayyat Al-Lamimi (the Canaan Al-Tayyar group when it invaded the people of the north, specifically the (Al-Omar) tribe).

    Therefore, Ubayyat Al-Lamimi goes back to Ubayyat Al-Hunaidiyis, according to the testimony of Shehata Al-Hunaidiyis, in Al asoul book, and it later went back to Ibn Ghasham from Al-Rawla and then to Sharaid Ummah from Al-Saba’. My attention was drawn to their stunning beauty and terrible production at the Al-Naeem tribe’s stud (Izz al-Din Abu Hamra branch), Al-Rifaiya Al-Hashemi, and this coincides in time and place with the movements of the Al-Walad Ali tribe (led by Kanaan Al-Tayyar) and its horses within the framework of its strategic range, specifically the Hauran lands, since the year 1700 and before.

    It also caught my attention with regard to the issue that the Kahilat al-Wati belongs to the Shammar tribe, which is also known as the Kahilat al-Jarishiyya, and as I read, the Wati branch of the Atifat of the Walad Ali tribe had the Kahilat al-Zahiya, which is a branch of the Kahilat al-Hanif from the daughters of the Kahilat Ibn Jarshan. From this standpoint, it is most likely that the Kahilat al-Wati that the Shammar tribe has is originally the Kahilat al-Zahiya that the Watti has from the Atifat of the Walad Ali tribe, which later passed to them (Shammar).

    1. These are all excellent observations. Four comments from my side on what you wrote Ahmad:

      1/ I know and was told that the horses of the Naeem in general were originally the horses of the Wuld Ali in the village of Ain Dhakar in the Jawlan. The horses were left behind when the Wuld Ali leaders (ibn Smeer) went back to Saudi Arabia. So your conclusion about the Ubayyat Umm Jrayss of the Naeem is correct.

      2/ the observation about the Wati originating with the Utayfat of the Wuld Ali is interesting. I had made the same observation some 15 years ago. However, there are apparently two Wati clans: one Wati among the ‘Utayfat of the Wuld Ali (there are stories about them online) and another Wati among the Sba’ah Abdah. According to George Tabet’s book (1937) the Kuhaylat al-Wati was from the Abdah Sba’ah. But I don’t know the final answer to this question, and it is good to keep looking.

      3/ That tribe in Jordan is spelled al-‘Amru, not al-Omar, see the book of Kulayb al-Fawwaz, where they are mentioned.

      4/ The Lumaylimi: the Shammar clan Al-suhayyan they got their Ubayyat al-Suhayyan from al-Lumaylimi, according to their own grandfathers’ account. They spell it al-Maylami, but I think it is a mistake on their side, because of the L letter at the beginning of a word, after al-

      1. As for the name (Al-Omar)… Yes, I doubted that it is a reference to Al-Amro from Bani Uqba/the Suleiman Abu Al-Hamayel clan/which was mentioned in the book (al asoul ). The tribes of the Karak Governorate in Jordan as they are today. Most likely, the dramatic and demographic transformation in the ongoing conflict in The geographical scope of the Hourani tribes pushed them to become an active force in the Hourani clan community to be reckoned with. I know well the history of this ancient tribe. As for mentioning or naming (the tribe of Al-Omar) here in this text in the story of Abiyyat Al-Lamimi, I cannot issue a fatwa or make any distortion or change in the name based on the previous tribal information and background. but here it is that opportunity golden came and you put the my doubt in the right place and corrected the information for me, I thank you for that, my brother Edward.

        1. You are a reference yourself Ahmad, certainly one of the best researchers in Arabia today in my opinion

          1. I second Edouard, your commentary is always highly informative. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and your insights!

          2. This is a great praice from a great and respected man, and an accolade that I place on my chest. What a blessing it is, and the ideas and information we convey, is nothing but the result of your great encouragement for me, and I will cherish that for the rest of my life.

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