Category: General

Une question qui doit certainement être aussi vieille que l’élevage et assurément son antienne. Sujet controversé qui a fait couler déjà beaucoup d’encre et user de salive. Il est fort probable que cette polémique reste encore longtemps en bonne place au titre des débats alambiqués. Il n’est pour s’en rendre compte de confier au commun des mortels que tel ou tel sujet (cheval ou autre) est le produit d’un accouplement en famille, puis observer : très souvent, la première réaction de notre interlocuteur est de gêne enveloppée dans un profond mutisme, après un recul, l’indignation ne se fait pas attendre et c’est le tollé… Tout ceci malgré maintes expériences, observations, études et par suite discours ou dissertations malheureusement subis et reçus comme prolixes et dérangeants. Travaux devenus stériles et retombant inertes dans le creuset du savoir en attendant d’être rebattus. L’Inbreeding nous dit-on : “désigne chez un individu une consanguinité plus forte que celle de la moyenne dans une race donnée” plutôt subjectif ! Je laisserai donc cette définition à l’appréciation de chacun. Pour traduire, il s’agit dans les origines d’un sujet donné de la présence d’un ou plusieurs ancêtres communs répétés dans les générations. A certains de rétorquer qu’après…

Joe Ferriss wrote: “But perhaps now is a good time for some of us to free ourselves from the temptation for compartmentalized thinking about asil bloodlines with the aim of producing more Waddudas, or Sindidahs or Old Speckled Jellabis.” I couldn’t agree more. I think that we, and those who came before us, have done a wonderful job of both educating the public and preserving the various AK/asil lines over several decades. Dividing them into sub-groups by various criteria in order to preserve the uniqueness of the various groups was certainly the right way to go, and the Craver model with the Davenports, which created even more possibilities within a limited pool, sheer genius. It has occurred to me from time to time that perhaps we have now reached “Stage Two” where we should be deliberately blending more of the subgroups in new ways. I’m not saying we should stop doing what we’ve done, only starting doing something new alongside. Certainly some of it should be well-planned and done in the ‘Western mode’ of thinking, with specific goals in mind, but I can’t help thinking that some of it should be done ‘haphazardly’ [in comparison to our Western, compartmentalized way…

To expand on Edouard’s last comment here about our chats in Oregon: I believe that the Asil bloodlines are very flexible and forgiving in that they can be bred for generations in one narrow direction (i.e. show ring, or non-Bedouin riding disciplines), outside the influence of the originating culture, and then they can also be returned to the type of the kinds of horses found among the originating culture as long as the breeder maintains a good understanding of what that culture values in the horse, its purposes for the horse, and keeps an open mind to the broadest possible choices. One example is modern combined source breeding in Al Khamsa, which I feel represents a great deal of liberation from bloodline constraints. I am optimistic that there are still lots of possibilities for breeders. We need to preserve all the ingredients of the ideal recipe for the Arabian horse, and by example long time breeders have done a fine job of it. But perhaps now is a good time for some of us to free ourselves from the temptation for compartmentalized thinking about asil bloodlines with the aim of producing more Waddudas, or Sindidahs or Old Speckled Jellabis.

I have decided to start a new series called “barely surviving lines”. In doing so, I was inspired by both the latest issue of the Khamsat magazine, which focuses on rare asil lines in the USA, and by Anne McGaughey’s excellent website “Rare Al-Khamsa Strains“. These “barely surviving lines” are still in existence, or likely to be in existence, but we don’t know for sure. They are included on the basis of the existence of an horses 25 years (in 2009) or younger that trace to these lines. Featured “barely surviving lines” are mainly through the tail female (because of my bias of tracking down horses according to their strains,  which are transmitted through the tail females), but I also include tail males, and some lines from the middle of the pedigrees. For those of you who may wonder about the worthiness of preserving these lines, I refer you to the discussion in the latest Khamsat. Opinions on the value of preserving these lines vary. On one end of the spectrum, some people will say that every endangered line is worth preserving, because of its intrinsic uniqueness, but also because it contribues to maintaining a broader gene pool. On the other end, others will maintain that lines…

As the 2009 Al Khamsa Convention in Oregon approaches (and this time, I plan to be there), here’s a video by Carol Mingst of the 1994 Oregon CMK Symposium, showing asil stallions of Davenport breeeding Mandarin CF (Regency x Lotus), Sportin Life and SA Apogee, among others. A good chunk of the video features Mandarin showing off. Can anyone tell me who the unidentified light grey horse is? He is striking.

This is a great tool for breeders of asil horses in the USA.

If any one is interested in the (very) early history of nomadic Arab tribes, then they ought to read Israel Eph’al’s book: “The Ancient Arabs: Nomads on the Borders of the Fertile Crescent: 9th-5th centuries BC. Google Books has a integral copy online. The books discusses the deeds of the little0known “Queen of the Arabs” Zabiba, Shamsi, Yatie, and others who fought the Assyrian empire more or less successfully. Think about naming your filly foal after them.

My daughter Samarcande (Edouard x Delphine), a 2008 part-bred Arab, is now 18 months, and claps her hands when she sees a horse’s picture on the laptop. Not a good sign for the future..

Another Hearst import to the USA in 1947 is *Bint Rajwa, who came with her dam *Rajwa, and her full brother *El Abiad.  There were essentially two groups of Hearst horses: one group was bred in Lebanon, from well-established Lebanese asil lines, and included the horses: *Bourhane, *Kouhailane, *Layya, *Lebnaniah, *Mansoura, *Nouwayra, *Najwa, and *Mounwer; another group was desert-bred, and had come from the Syrian desert to Beirut for racing purposes. This second group included *Arkane, *Snounou, *Ghamil, and *Rajwa. Rajwa’s recorded strain is Saqlawi “Ejrifi”, a marbat I have never heard of before, and the name of which I believe is misspelt. It may well be Saqlawi Arjabi (alternative spellings: Erjibi; Rajabi), which is the fourth and last of the four main branches of the strain (Jadran, Ubayri, Arjabi and al-Abd), but I am not sure. I will need to check this one. Bint Rajwa is Rajwa’s daughter by a famous asil Arabian horse of Lebanese breeding: the grey Karawane, who raced in Beirut in 1940s in the ownership of Henri Pharaon (who else?) and was otherwise known as “Karawane al-Azim”, i.e., Karawane the Great. A picture of her is appended below, from the website of Suzi Morris’ Ariena Arabians, courtesy…

If any of you want to know what it feels like for a Western woman to live in today’s Saudi Arabia, then you ought to check out Susie of Arabia’s Jeddah Daily Photo Journal. Nothing to do with Arabian horses, but interesting still 😉

These days I seem to have less and less time to devote to writing longer articles that aim to make a point in a well-documented, systematic way. That’s why you’re seeing more and more photos and videos these days. It’s not that I ran out of things to say. I just ran out of time to put things together in a more organized way. That’s why I thought I’d create a special section on this blog where I’d put more crude, quick-and-rough thoughts (bullet points really – they love bullet where I work), waiting to be organized into a full-blown blog entry. It’s also a way to offer some leads to those of you who’d want to take the research further. So check My Scrapbook section from time to time. My Twitter account is also supposed to play a similar role, although I haven’t quite gotten hooked on it yet.

Pictured above is Shadia I, 1939 bay mare by El Zafir x Shams INS. Her dam is a granddaughter of El Kahila, the first Saud mare to be given to Inshass from King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud. Saudi Arabia has been a source for some horses in the Inshass stud in Egypt. Members of the Saud Royal family had been generous in giving a number of their “asil” horses to the father and son Kings of Egypt, King Fouad and later his son King Farouk. For the most part names of each family member appear in the Inshass Stud book which is not a complete document but does give us some insight into these horses. I have compiled a list here of horses identified as coming from the Sa’ud family to Inshass stud: 1. El Kahila, dark bay mare born 1921 strain: Kuhaylah Krush. Her strain is not listed in the Inshass studbook but her daughter is listed as Kuhaylah Krush. 2. El Obeya Om Geris. Collin Pearson book designates her as a gift from King Aziz Ibn Saoud perhaps in early 1931, arrived with foal by “Koheilan El Azouz. Her strain is Obeya Om Grees [Abayyah Om Jurays], her…

Someone guessed (or knew) that the “mystery mare” was a ‘Ubayyah. She is indeed a ‘Ubayyah Sharrakiyah of the marbat of al-Sahlan of Shammar al-Jazirah, or a ‘Ubayyah Suhayliyah. If you are that someone, just respond to this thread.

I personally believe that the strains of Arabian horses are mere family names, created to identify lineages of asil horses in an oral society. I have had the occasion to make my case in other venues. I also believe that strains and types are to be dissociated, and cannot be related to each other in general. Finally, I don’t believe that anyone, however expert they are, can guess the strain of a horse simply by looking at him. So lets play a little game: the first reader to guess the strain of the mare in the photo below gets to write post (or an article) on Daughter of the Wind on the topic of his/her choice (related to Arabian horses of course). The possible answers are in a poll which you can find by scrolling down, on the bottom right of the website. Good luck (since it’s a matter of luck and not more)! Note: the sire, the dam and the maternal grandsire of the mare are from the same strain and marbat. In case some of you are tempted to say that a horse is only representative of the type of the strain which is most represented in its pedigree, and…

Yet another great article by Joe Ferriss, this time in the Khamsat magazine (scroll down), with comparisons, pictures and descriptions asil Arabian horses, old and new.

As usual, scroll down along the right column, and you’ll find it..

Nothing to do with horses, but I thought some of you would enjoy these pictures of the green mountains of Yemen, which I gleaned from the internet. They help dispel some stereotypes about this area of the world.. The name ancient Romans knew Yemen by was ‘Arabia Felix‘, “Fertile Arabia”, because of its running waters, its lush vegetation and the riches it garnered from the frankincense, myrrh and spice trade.

I haven’t written for more than a week, and feel guilty about it. I just landed in Cairo this morning, where I will stay for three days, after spending one week in Morocco. The weather here is cold, and I am about to get out for a breath of (not so) fresh air. I wish the view from my  window looked like the picture below, but it doesn’t..  

It looks like the WAHO conference in Syria has given a number of Syrian entrepreneurs a bright idea: the desert Arabian horse as a commercial good. They are hosting “Arabian Passion: the Damascus International Horse and Equestrian Fair” (I made it a policy not to link to commercial stuff, so Google it yourselves if you want), for the second time, on October 16-19th, 2009 in Damascus. Not sure which passion they mean..  The exhibitors’ target is “making this exhibition an ideal place for those who would like to offer their products and services”.  Fascinating. Gone indeed are the days when idealistic Syrians would offer visitors their lasting friendship and the hospitality of their homes and barns. Now they want to offer you their products and services, including those coveted “bedding and flooring products”. I knew that era would reach Syria one day, but I didn’t know that it would happen so soon… which reminds me of this quote from French writer Antoine de Saint Exupéry (1900-1944):  “Nous nous sommes nourris de la magie des sables. D’autres peut-etre y creuseront leurs puits de petrole et s’enrichiront de leurs marchandises. Mais ils seront venus trop tard. Car les palmeraies interdites ou la poudre vierge des…

Yesterday, January 11th 2009 marked the first birthday of “Daughter of the Wind”. I want to pause for a minute and take a look at one year of blogging about desert Arabian horses.   As a trained economist I can’t resist sharing the latest figures from my dashboard. Since March 26th, 2008 (which is when I started keeping track of stats) there have been 10,694 unique visitors and 163,884 clicks or visits to the website; it has featured 6 bloggers (me included), who posted a total of 240 posts, with 87 readers posting 925 comments. 100 links were added and 281 tags created. Also, 70% of the reader used English on their web browsers (which doesn’t mean they all come from English speaking countries); 10% used French; 5% used German; 2% used Hungarian; 2% used Arabic and the rest were divided in 19 other languages.  Beyond the numbers, Daughter of the Wind has drawn together readers from countries as diverse as Croatia, Hungary, Iran, Israel, Mauritania, Namibia and South Africa, in addition to the US, Canada, France, Germany, Saudi Arabia, etc. It has featured the wonderful asil Arabians of South Africa as well as the precious Babolna lines of Hungary, and shed some light on…

Do you happen know who this gorgeous beauty is (was)?  Clue: bred in the USA, but a daughter of the desert. Definitely an absolute favorite of mine, judging only from the few (rather poor) pictures I have of her. Here is another one: 

I just wanted to take this occasion to wish everyone a Happy, happy new year. It’s been a great year for Daughter of the Wind, which by the way will blow its first candle in a just a few days.. Here’s to another great year of enjoying these wonderful horses and the great people who breed them across the world.

I can’t resist sharing with you the nice holiday card I just received from Joe and Sharon Ferriss. Thank you Joe and Sharon..  and the one Laszlo and Eva Kiraly also sent me.. Thanks Laszlo and Eva.. and a Happy Holiday to all..

Third and last photo sent by Laszlo Kiraly of his horses in Hungary. This is Dahhmany Bagdady (Wahhabit x Tisrina B), Laszlo’s stallion. Dahhmany is a unique combination of Egyptian bloodlines, Davenport (Old American) and Babolna blood (through Siglavy Bagdady VI). Wahhabit was Siglavy Bagdady VI’s only asil son.

Your vote WILL make a difference..

As Edouard said “relying on second hand  sources can be a problem”.I say relying on first hand sources can also be a problem. Are the sources and information  for accepting a horse as Asil always reliable.? Take the Egyptian Stud Book we have to rely on the word of Egyptian stud manager who sometimes wrote under “Asil” Anglo Arabs(Raswan index photocopies),we never heard about this horses, were they being used as “Asil” on Arab mares ? who knows? maybe.  The horses bought from Hazem Pasha( a thcherkesse) by El Hadad were very tall horses,a little bit unusal for Bedouin bred horses.  the mares height: Geheilt el Sheriff  1.58m, Kheila 1.60m, Siglavy Bagdadi was 1.56m.Mersuch 1.57m.Those horses were not ,except Mersuch, Hazem pasha breeding.Siglavy Bagdadi is said to be by the Ruweylat, Wifrid Blunt wrote that Iraqi tribes crossed their mares with Turkmen horses,the south of Bagdad region was  breeding horses for the Indian race market, (Major General Tweedie,The Arab and his horse).  It is very difficult to recognize a Pure from a part bred ,Edouard father experienced this in Beirut,the only way is inside informers like the police. Ie:In 1897 Prince Roman Sanguszko acquired from Ali Pasha sherif a white stallion called “Massad”.”Massaad” was “the one sent from…

Food for thought:  “The Arabian is not a color breed, so markings and color are not all that important, except that the body spot has been discriminated against in the judging rules — though recently modified and accordingly, has been considered “unclean” by novices. Some the more naive — unfamiliar with the breed’s tradition of plentiful markings — have considered it a “sign of admixture.” Instead, it is more likely a sign of the breed’s antiquity. In the first place, the reason for this “anti-white” clause was to discourage production of pintos in the breed, and after decades of teaching that “Arabians are never parti-color,” it is embarrassing to admit that they are.”   Gladys Brown Edwards “Know the Arabian Horse”

This is a picture of Nouro, an Arabian stallion from Syria being trained at the stables next door to where I work as a racehorse trainer. 

This paint horse has 99.8% Arabian blood. If he were to be crossed with an Asil mare, the offspring would be a 99.9% Arabian horse, much like more than 95% of all WAHO-accepted horses. Count  Alexander Dzieduszycki, the president of the Arab Horse Breeding Society of Poland from 1925 to 1945 called such horses “full blooded Arabs”. Now someone try and explain this to a Bedouin!!  

I just want to wish readers in the USA a Happy Thanksgiving.

Kuhailan Haifi I is the only son of the desert bred import Kuhailan Haifi out of the Babolna mare Mersuch 1-3-1 (Kohejlanka in Polish breeding). He was exported to Babolna in 1938, where he was renamed “Tajar”. He left two Asil mares: 21 kuhaylan Haifi I, which left no Asil progeny; and  250 kuhailan Haifi I the dam of the Stallion Siglavy Bagdady VI which Edouard recently wrote about. This leads me to surmise that there may be Asil horses from Babolna lines left, trough the Babolna mares taken by the Germans during WWII, rescued by the Poles, who returned them in 1951 to Babolna. Maybe Tzviah can help ? 

The three mares Rabda Khuszaiba, Hadba Inzihi, and Szeikha were bought by Zientarski and Raswan in the same mission as the stallions Kuhailain Haifi, Kuhailan Zaid, Kuhailan Kruszan and Kuhailan Afas. The photos of these 3 mares are taken from Britta Fahlgren’s “The Arabian Horses Families of Poland“.   All three mares were bred by and bought from the large Muntafiq Bedouin tribe. Rabda Khuszaiba (by a Kuhailan Krush x Rabda Khuszaiba) had a small breeding record, and  all her progeny seems to have been lost during World War II. Hadba Inzihi (by a Kuhailan Krush x Hadba Inzihi) was also lost during the war with nothing left from her (neither Asil or non-Asil).  Szeikha (by a Dahman Shehwan x Kuhailat Adjouz) produced three mares by Kuhailan Kruszan OA. Only one mare, Udzda, left some non-asil progeny: that was the asil mare  Ferha by Kuhailan Abu Arkub (himself by Kuhailan Zaid db).

Kuhailan Afas (by a Kuhaylan Wadnan x a Kuhaylat Aafess) came to Poland from the island of Bahrain in 1931. This stallion, along with Kuhailan Haifi, Kuhailan Kruszan, Kuhailan Zaid and a few mares, were bought by Bogdan Zietarski and Carl Raswan for the Gumniska stud. The Gumniska stud was owned by the Sanguszko princely family of Poland.      Kuhailan Afas left three asil sons: -Bad Afas 1940 x Bad by Diab db -Drop 1939 x Donia by Koheilan Haifi db -Don Afas 1940 x Donia  by Koheilan Haifi db Donia is out of Donka (Schehan Shammar db x Koheilan II), she is Babolna bred; this is the same dam line of the asil mare 25 Amurath Sahib.

Pictures taken at Mustapha al-Jabri’s farm in 1991-92. Later, a photo of Al Ward el Mayel was widely used, especially in the “Arabian horse world” were he was pictured jumping in front of a wall, if somebody can remember. Please Edouard give us the pedigrees and strain of the grey Taan and of Al Ward al-Mayel. Thank you.

Amer is one of the most successful current arabian racing sires and has produced nearly 300 offspring to date. His progeny has raced in Europe and Middle East and currently more than 80 offspring  have won a total of 339 races. 40 of these wins are Group 1 wins, 39 by horses bred and raised at Umm Qarn’s farms in UK and Qatar.  His progeny have additionally been placed in 25 Group 1 races, won 4 Group 2 races and 6 Group 3 races. The text and photos are taken from Umm Qarn Farms, Qatar, Amer’s owners (joe)  

The first Saudi Arabian Stud book was issued in 1991 by the “Dirab Arabian Horse Center” later named the King Abdul-Aziz horse Center. In 1935 Dr. Mabrouk of the Royal Agricultural Society of Egypt, traveled to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia on a horse-buying mission. He wrote about and took pictures of the horses he saw, from the stud of Prince Faysal in Taif near the Red Sea to the stud of Ibn Jiluwi stud near the Persian Gulf.  As I’m now in Beirut and the book is in my stables in Damascus ,a post will follow with pictures from Dr. Mabrouk’s trip (if they are good) inshallah. In 1936 a lot of Saudi horses died of a horsesickness, so King Abdul-Aziz received as a present a lot of mares and stallions of Syrian origin,especially from Ibn Mehayd, the sheikh of the Fad’aan Bedouins, Looking at Volume I of the Saudi Arabian studbook one notices the following : The strains are Hamdani Simri, Kuhaylan Abu Arqub, ‘Ubayyan al-Saifi, Kuhailan Suwayti al Firm, Kuhaylan al-Sekti, etc. Saqlawis are very  rare. A quick survey of the 1980’s Saudi mares gives the following: Daughters of Safeer (100) a Hamdani Semri: 474 Farasha Kuhaila Sowaitia; 476 Soad  Kuhaila Um Arqub; 481 Afeefa Kuhaila Sowaitia; 503…

I’ve just geotagged several photos in my Flickr roll. You can now see the horses’ photos on a map, according to where they were bred. I will add more geotagged photos as we go.