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Hussain Ghashemi from Iran sent these pictures from Iran. Not an
Arabian horse obviously, but a gorgeous specimen of an Iranian
Turkmen horse.
A blog on desert arabian horses, past, present and future
Hussain Ghashemi from Iran sent these pictures from Iran. Not an
Arabian horse obviously, but a gorgeous specimen of an Iranian
Turkmen horse.
Yes! Akhel Teke???
AnitaW
Not really, Anita, but related. Akhal Tekes are the Turkmen horses of Turkmenistan and Russia, and they have a lot of English TB blood. These are the Turkmen horses of neighboring Iran, and the common wisdom is that they were not mixed with English blood. But Hussain would know better.
Compare thw two conformation types of the Turkmen and the davenport mare. Explains why the early breeders of English Thoroughbreds tried so hard and so often to infuse their stock with Asil arabians if possible. And of course the results when they were able to do so speak for themselves i.e. Eclipse fromthe darley arabian line.
Best wishes
bruce Peek
My first thought was the same Anita,he is a very similar stamp to the Akhal Teke horses that I know… though that only amounts to two small studs and a couple of horses on the enedurance circuit.
I didn’t know that they had put TB blood into that breed.
it is almost impossible to find Akhal Tekes without TB blood today. Its introduction dates to the 1920s. The Akhal Teke as a “pure” horse is a myth.
According to the informative site Akhal Teke: A Differentiated View http://akhalteke.info/about-us-1-68-en.html , the last A-T in the studbook without foreign blood died in 1998.
What the Soviets did to animal breeding in the name of scientifically proving the possibility of ,’creating the new socialist man,’ was horendous. During the Stalinist era they began doing what was really experimental cross breeding- but fraudulantly called it pure breeding. I suppose for the scientists involved ,’proving,’ acquired characteristics could be inherited was better than a quick trip to the Gulag. Even if the data was falsified. However the result was the destruction of irreplaceable genetic stock. The Akal tekes being just one example. I cannot help it but this has always fueled my suspicions of the Russian Arabs too. Not that they are not perfectly sound useful horses. But to me they look like they have Trakhener within a couple of generations. And of course they were principally bred at tersk, and of course the russians also developed a heavily arabian influenced breed called the Tersky which coincindentally enough was also bred at Tersk. hmm
best wishes
Bruce Peek
Himm. I didn’t know that about animal breeding in the Soviet era, but I am not surprised. What are other examples beyond Akhal Tekes?
Edouard I sincerely beg your pardon about the multiple posts. trying to use a non google site. I apologise for the goof!
Bruce Peek
no worries I am also going to get out of Google.. too much intrusion into my personal privacy.
Yes that is interesting, not sure if I dare say this but the fanous ‘Russian (Arabian) trot’ (not as I have often said, in my view, THE Arab gait which is,I think, the sublime canter); anyway, this allegedly incredible ‘like a train’ trot is often the same trot that we have all often criticised as having bicycling hocks… where did that come from??
Well lets see off the top of my head there was the attempt to breed docile artic foxes. After 10 or more generations of selecting only the kindest most gentle foxes the scientists found their ears drooping, and their coats became spotted and they lost their fox screech- snarl and started barking like dogs. One of the Wikkepedia sites about the whole lysenkoism nonsense says that about the only branch of Soviet science that escaped the purges and getting liquidated
was the nuclear physics department because while jo Stalin was most likely mad as a hatter he certainly was not stupid. He needed the physicists to develop the bomb- altho in the end the soviets just bought the design from Klaus Fuchs who worked for the Manhattan project. probably the greatest intelligence coup in modern times.
Best wishes
Bruce Peek
That fox project was very interesting though unpleasant. It exemplifies is one of the reasons that I worry so much about how fast the Arab breed could be/is being degraded by selection for walk and trot in hand only and there are lines who haven’t been ridden for nearly the same number of generations that it takes to turn a fox into a ‘dog’.
Well this is a real Tazi Turken Horse.
But, if i look them…so i think…Mu’niqi strain have Turkmen Blood in their Vein’s.
Look this Horse…
To me he looks like a saddlebred, long back, highset tail, longish gaskins. Now i understand how genetiscists say Thoroughbreds were so heavily influenced by Turkomens, and that Thoroughbreds in turn heavily influenced saddlebreds.
best wishes
Bruce Peek