Asil sire lines in the West

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on December 14th, 2010 in General

Matthias prompted to tally the asil tail males in the West, following the series of entries on asil tail females. I just did it, and it was even faster than I expected:

1) Zobeyni, Saqlawi Jadran, imported to Egypt around the 1850s and bred by the Fad’aan (‘Anazah)

2) Saklawi I, Saqlawi Jadran, imported to Egypt around the 1880s and bred by the Ruwalah (‘Anazah)

3) Jamil El Kebir, Saqlawi Jadran, imported to Egypt around the 1880s and bred by the Fad’aan (‘Anazah)

4) El Deree, Saqlawi Sha’ifi, imported to Egypt around the 1920s and bred by the Jubur

5) *Deyr, ‘Ubayyan Sharrak, imported to the USA in 1906

6) *Muson, Kuhaylan al-Musinn, imported to the USA in 1906 and from a line going back to the Ruwalah (‘Anazah)

7) *Furtha Dhellal, Hamdani, imported to the USA in 1966, from a line going back to the Dawasir

8 *Jalam Al-Ubayyan, ‘Ubayyan, imported to the USA in 1966, from the House of Saud

9) *Taamri, ‘Ubayyan, imported to the USA in 1960, bred by the Wuld Sulayman (‘Anazah)

The first four are sire lines from Egypt (and the fourth is barely represented in the West); the fifth and sixth are “Davenport” sire lines only present in North America, and the last three are Saudi Arabian sire lines mainly represented in North America.

[Update: Laszlo Kiraly rightly reminds me of a tenth asil sire line that is specific to Europe and that is that of Siglavy Bagdaday VI, his son Wahhabit, and Wahhabit’s son Dahhmany Bagdady, whom Laszlo owns.. See comment]

I am still leaving out the recent Bahraini and Syrian imports to the West.

10 Responses to “Asil sire lines in the West”

  1. …and Siglavy Bagdady, a Saklavy Gidran (or Saqlawi Jadran),imported by Fadlallah El Heddad to Hungary in 1902, bred by the Ruwalah (‘Anazah)
    Best wishes,
    László

  2. Edouard,

    Does this research match up with Al Khamsa, if not please give differences. (and perhaps, why not)

    Jackson

  3. Yes, Jackson, it does match with AK. The only ones that are not AK yet are the three Tahawi mares Folla, Futna and Bint Barakat, and *Lebnanieh, and *Bint Attebe. Hopefully the first two will be in AK by next year. The third has not yet been submitted to AK, but should be eligible. Oh, and the *Abeyah tail female has *Nureddin II and so it is not AK either. So that makes 4 tail females that are not AK, at least not as of today

  4. I guess if you able to get some or all, then Al Khamsa will be writing another book? Good luck! (But then how many are being considered for removal, lack of information or proper information?)

    New information, factual, not opinion should dictate any removal. Yet, I would always fault on the side of saving a
    clean reality, the loss of a few is better then the loss of all.

  5. There is one Asil Sirline more…
    Bairactar (1813-1838) a Saqlawi Jidran importef in 1817 by Baron von Fechtig for The Kingstud Weil in Baden Wurrtemberg.

  6. really? which asil stallion living today is from this sire line?

  7. None asil and active sire of the Bairactar line is alive today. The last was Amurath Sahib in Poland during World War II and after. For this reason Marbach State Stud in Germany used non asil sires of this sire line on their last asil mares of the Murana I female line! Instead of looking to the last remaining asil lines of Babolna. Hopefully these last asil mares of Murana I´s line (also very few privately owned) will save the line!

  8. I thougt so…
    Unfortunately, only two Asile Mares from the Murana Damline have left.

  9. I notice little about the Zobeyni sire line. This is not to criticize. I don’t think there is much interest, sadly, as there are few examples in modern Asil Arabians for reference or, ultimately, for educational purposes if one does not want to “dig around”. Cheryl O’Donnell has a few of this direct sire line not only through El Reata Juan, but also through Fadaan, a more attractive son of Julyan in my opinion, and far more scarce in the sire line. His sons and daughters are remarkable. Having owned one myself and seeing many, I always admired the Gulastra bred horses within the CMK designations, which helped drive my quest to get this line “closer” into my Straight Egyptian herd. Considering the general lack of desire for breeders to educate themselves about the diversity that is still available to SE breeders, all while some diversity is aging faster than we are breeding, I figured I would simply make the comment to bring it to the forefront for anyone who might be interested. Thank you, Kate

  10. The Zobeyni sire line runs through Mesaoud’s son Astraled in straight egyptian breeding through Gulastra, Julep and Julyan; and through Mesaoud’s son Seyal in Asil Crabbet/Doyle breeding through Berk, Ribal and Ghadaf. The latter is frequently mentioned on this blog, the former less so.

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