Desert breds from Syria coming to a farm near you
I am currently working with a prominent Syrian breeder to get a desert-bred stallion or two from reputable bloodlines to the USA. I don’t mean to sound mysterious or coy but I cannot tell you more about it at this stage, since it’s still cooking..
If it is at all possible, then, once he is here and ready, lets all chip in and have him frozen. That way, any and all interested can have access for the future. This is a secure way for us to preserve this blood with respect to the horses.
This is exciting news, Edouard!
“This is a secure way for us to preserve this blood with respect to the horses.”
Only if that particular stallion freezes well, which if I remember the numbers is a 2 in 3 chance — unless Edouard can have that evaluated as part of his stallion selection criteria.
Good luck!
Um lets see. Do people view this as an opportunity to fix some things conformation-wise that some U.S. Asils could use some help with? Like stronger hindquarters, bigger cannon bone, and higher set necks. Might be stretching things a bit here, but just imagine if we could get the equivalent of Haleb. Man what a coup that would be!!
Best Wishes
Bruce Peek
I can not wait to for Asil Syrian stallion(s) to arrive in USA. I totally trust Edouard’s years of knowledge in selecting the best of the best. My mare confirmation is not perfect and could produce better than herself with the help of a desert bred Syrian stallion. Her faults can be a result of inbreeding.
Hello Bassam, I am quite right with you. I get two daughters from Dahess Hassaka which are beautiful and I am longing to wait for products of Hussam Shamal. My mares conformations are not perfects too, due to inbreeding also and I m really suprised of the result.
A word of caution:
Breeding groups, such a Egyptian, Blue Star,or even Davenport – Bradley, will do well to think first. Babson
and the Turfa’s were in the discussions prior, trying to save. So much is lost when one welcomes change for the sake of change.
For the mix source groups, the addition should be welcomed! Perhaps this will create an interest needed. Yet, then there are many studs and countries, such as the Bahrain Horses, Jordan Horses, and etc. all open to
additional blood lines.
The other groups here can continue to offer their stallion lines into the mixed group, an interesting process.
It is easy to change and very difficult to maintain.
Thank you arnault for sharing your knowledge with us.
Am not an experienced breeder and Dahess Hassaka Daughters are concrete prove to my thinking and theory.
hope all goes to plan for you.
cheers
diane
Thanks. The idea is for the horse(s) to stand at public stud, and appeal to the broader pool of Arabians, not only to Desert, or Al Khamsa horses. I will share more in due time.
For the time being,and before Edouard’s importation ,we will be able to offer, starting this fall,Inshallah,frozen semen from our Syrian Desert Horse “Hussam el Shamal” twice Syrian National Reserve Champion 2008/2009.
Actually standing at stud in Normandie, France.
For further information please contact
Arnault.decroix@wanadoo.fr
Appeal to the broader pool of
Arabians, not only to Desert or Al Khamsa horses.- Edouard that is the best strategy, because the horses that need it the most- it being additional genuine Asil genes from the middle east are the general list horses. And of course Syrian Asils would most likely be far enough away genetically that for all intents and purposes it would be an outcross for the general list horses. Still I think the idea of being able to buy some frozen semen from the Syrian guys would be wonderful as well.
This is a really good idea. Are there things some of us fringe types can do to help?
Best Wishes
Bruce Peek
Thank you Bruce for the helping hand
we planned to take frozen semen to impregnate 20 mares ,we have already demands from breeders from France ,Belgium,Holland,Hungary and even from Sicily.We could incrase the quantity depending on how many Us mares will be interested in Hussam’s Semen.
Moreover talking about Haleb,
Hussam’s looks like him
he was born like him in Fidaan’s land
His Sire is a renowed 100% Fidaan horse
His maternal line came as gift from the Fidaan’s Sheikhs to their neighbours;the “Agha” Yakan family,Hussam’s breeders.
Best regards
Joe
you can look at Hussam’s picture if you go back to the archive:
Photos of the Day: Hussam al-Shimal, Kuhaylan al-Nawwaq stallion from Syria in France (0)
Posted on January 17, 2010 1:30 PM
I was just wondering… what did the Bedu do with horses who were useless? Meaning… they were not war horses… they had no qualities that the owner wanted to reproduce? Nor carry on. What did they do with them? Surely there were several…. Did they just leave them behind or what? I have always wondered about this…
They sold them… Sometimes
To foreigners
Report of a mission to the Orient by the French National Stud, year 1925
Inspector-General Rieu de Madron, on mission with the Feidhan of Hatchem Bedouins
“Few extract”
The Sbaa were waiting for us. Their chief, Berges Ibn Merched, received us with honors in his tent. Ten minutes later, on signal, more than two hundred and fifty armed horsemen paraded in front of us. Their horses were superb, the grays in front ,followed by other colors .Then they showed us some horses in hand ,all the while avoiding showing us their mares up close: they were taken away immediately. We saw some handsome animals, very typy and spirited and were told that they were from the finest strains. But soon as we mentioned buying them they were not for sale. When it was time for me to leave, I told Berges that in memory of my visit, I would like to buy some mares from his tribe, but no one was inclined to sell. He replied that if I wanted, he would offer me a mare as a gift. But as it was not part of my mission to accept that which I could not reciprocate of for which I could hardly show proper appreciation, I declined his gracious offer. (Page 39 of the English translation)
During our visit (to the Sbaa Gomossa) a curious event occurred which proved yet again that the Arabs do not breed their horses for commercial reasons. A Bedouin came to tell us that he wanted to show us a magnificent mare but he could not bring her to us for a hidden reason .We traveled the few kilometers to his tent and no sooner we start admiring this truly large, beautiful and well-built mare, than a woman burst onto the scene, grabbed the lead rope from the Bedouin and led the mare back to her tent.The incident, swift as lightening ,sufficed to lead me to believe that the female will was not an illusion, even in the Middle East. (Page 27)
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France was then the colonial power in Syria, and despite of this the Sbaa refused to sell any mare to the French Mission.
This to show the quality of the mares sold to “Foreigners” in the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th.