References to El Dahma’s strain in Lady Anne’s Journals

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 19th, 2014 in General

I was always intrigued by the scarcity of references in Lady Anne Blunt’s Journals and Correspondence to her encounters with the Dahman Shahwan horses of the lines of Nadra El Kebira and Obeya, compared to her numerous references to horses from the lines of Yemama (Saqlawi Jadran ibn Sudan), Roga El Beda (Saqlawi Jadran, no marbat mentioned) and Freiha (Kuhaylan Mimrah) at the stables of Prince Mohammed Ali Tewfiq and Prince Ahmad Kamal. This is by far Egypt’s most famous and globally prevalent strain today, yet it is the one we know least about from contemporary sources.

The most explicit of these scarce references occurs during a visit to the stables of Prince Mohammed Ali Tewfiq at Manial on December 22nd 1908, where she records seeing “a beautiful grey Dahmeh Shah. the prince got lately from the Khedive who had her dam from A. Pasha Sherif (she had a foal 3 weeks old with her)“. This is either Nadra El Kebira or Gazza.

Another reference is from one year earlier, on December 17, 1907, also during a visit to the Prince: “There was a handsome white horse from the Khedive, a Dahman — sire Seglawi, which headed the list of horses.” Could this be Farhan/Saklawi II, who was out of El Dahma, and by Saklawi I?

A third reference occurs on December 4th of the same year 1907, when Prinnce Mohammed Ali tells Lady Anne: “my brother has two Dahmehs from Ali Pasha Sherif, which I asked him to let me buy from him as he did not wish to breed Arabs, but he would not, and then I found he had had them covered  by Cedar (and English horse).” Could one of these two mares have been Nadra El Kebira, and the other one Gazza?

 

 

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 31

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 18th, 2014 in Syria

Taan

Lady Anne Blunt’s last visit to Ahmed Pasha

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 18th, 2014 in General

The entry in Lady Anne Blunt’s Journals about her last visit to Ahmed Pasha Kemal’s stud (shortly after the Pasha’s death) on March 10th, 1907 is extremely informative. It was the last of several visits of Lady Anne’s to that stud, she remembered a lot of the horses from her previous visits, she spent a long time looking at the horses (1.5 hours), and she was accompanied by “Ali Effendi the old Kurdish manager”, Mahmoud who then went under her service and of course Mutlaq. Her description of the mares and stallions in that Journal entry comes four days after the acutal visit (which was on March 6th), and is precise and detailed as usual. Look at the comments of that blog entry for comment’s and speculation on my side about the horses in this entry of Lady Anne’s Journal, some obvious and some not so obvious.

Here is the full text of that entry (italics are Lady Anne’s but bolds are mine):

March 10

Now about the Ahmed Pasha Stud. Was received there by Ali Effendi the old Kurdish Manager, and Mahmud, and spent about an hour and a half looking round. The first mares in the row, a chestnut Nowakieh, Mutlak fancies much, and she is a fine strong mare with sympathetic head (8 or 10 years I think) a daughter of Noma (who was by Wazir), a bay I remember, and of Jamil the bay son of Sobha one of original = from = APS = Seglawi Jed: by the chestnut Ibn Sbeyni Seflawi Jedran I remmber. There were two bay Nowagiehs and several greys but all these seemed to me to have very plain quarters. Then 2: a grey Seglawieh Jedranieh daughter of Roga another original = from = APS = Seg. = Jed. ( I think I remember her too) her sire Jamil, 13 years old. 3: Chestnut Seglaw. Jed. daughter of above (g.d. of Roga) 8 years old her sire Sabbah Manaki from Ibn Maajil. 4: Grey Seg. Jed. (“Shieha”) daughter of the chestnut above (g.g.d. of Roga) said to be 7 years (?) (if so the Shakra was only 3 on foaling!). Sire Abeyan Haneydis (an Abeyan I’ve never heard of). 5: Grey Seg. Jed. “Dalal” daughter of the chestnut above, 3 years, her sire Rabdan, grey by. K. Radbn., his dam Rabda brough from Nejd by Ibn Bassam, his sire Dahman whose dam  was Ferida the white Dahmeh Shahwanieh (from Abbas Pasha’s stud) of Ahmed Bey Sennari, his sire the old white Segl. Jedran Ahmed Pasha got from A.P.S. 6: Bay yearling Seg. Jed. said to be daughter of Seglawieh Jedranieh the old grey mare daughter of Roga; pretty head, has no white, is by Radban. 7: Chestnut Ke. Mimre, beautiful head ‘Ghazala’ at end of nose. Sire? 7 years. 7a: Chestnut Ke. Mim. 5 1/2 – dam? – blaze (Sire Dahman), 8: Grey Keh. Mimre daughter of original mare of Zeydel Horeymis [?] of Fedaan with foal by Sabbah (while be grey) 8 years sire Dahman. 9: Brown Keh Mimre (fill) sister of chestnut Ghazala (lovely head). 10: Bay Keh Mimre yearling (by tent) blaze, sire:?

Horses

Grey, nearly white dark mane and tail, Segl. Jed. 7 years, his dam Batila from Ali Pasha Sherif died before Mahmud came, his sire Sabbah a Dahman Shahwan. 2: Dahman 14 years not for sale, his dam Ferida the Dahmeh Shahwanieh of Sennari, his sire the old white Seglawi: a splendid horse, the old fashioned type of APS. Prince Ahmed used to ride him, and neither this horse nor the prince’s ass are to be sold. 3: Radban, white Keh. Radban his dam Rabda frm Nejd brought by el Bassam his sire Dahman — beautiful head. 4: Gharaf, pretty grey, 4 years old. 5: Chestnut…

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 30

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 17th, 2014 in Syria

Saqlawiyah at Mustafa

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 29

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 16th, 2014 in Syria

Ameenah

Horses of Mostafa al-Jabri: 28

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 15th, 2014 in Syria

Dalahem 267

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 27

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 14th, 2014 in Syria

AL SABEK

Note on the Krush mares of Iskander Qassis

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 13th, 2014 in Syria

While perusing old handwritten notes I found this bit of information, from a conversation with Radwan Shabareq:

“Dr Iskander Qassis had four Krush mares which he got from Abu Husayn Khattab (the premier horse merchant and expert in Syria in the 1950s) who in turn got them from his father who had in turn obtained them from Mijhim ibn Mhayd. They were from the Krush of Al-Sane’, which was the best Krush marbat of the Fad’aan (woul ne3m).”

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 26

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 13th, 2014 in Syria

Hamdaniat Ibn Ghurab

Back

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 13th, 2014 in General

I am b ack and will resume the series of photos on Mustafa al-Jabri’s horses, by backdating a few entries until we reach today’s.

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 25

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 12th, 2014 in Syria

Shuwaymah Adoulah

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 24

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 11th, 2014 in Syria

Haifi son of Mahrous

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 23

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 10th, 2014 in Syria

ibn M ouna by Mahrous

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 22

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 9th, 2014 in Syria

Mouna, Ubayyat al-Hunaydees

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 21

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 8th, 2014 in Syria

Jilfat Sattam Al Bulad Maharah

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 20

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 7th, 2014 in Syria

Krush al-Shamuss

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 19

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 6th, 2014 in Syria

full brother of Ihsan Al Thani

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 18

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 5th, 2014 in Syria

Saad, by Mahrous out of Nova at Mustafa's

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 17

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 4th, 2014 in Syria

Khalidah, Saqlawiyah Jadraniyah at Mustafa's

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 16

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 3rd, 2014 in Syria

Tadmor, Ma'naqi Sbayli at Mustafa's

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 15

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 2nd, 2014 in General, Syria

Rishah Bint al Balad

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 14

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on April 1st, 2014 in General

Ihsan at Mustafa Jabri in 1990

Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 13

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on March 31st, 2014 in General

Barakeh, Saqalawiyah Jadraniyah at Mustafa Jabri in 1994

Protected: Bint Yemama in Prince Mohammed Ali’s Herdbook

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on March 30th, 2014 in General

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Horses of Mustafa al-Jabri: 12

By Edouard Aldahdah

Posted on March 30th, 2014 in General

Hamdaniyat al-Efri at Mustafa Jabri in 1993